Why is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict escalating due to actions of both sides?

[Hurkyl]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5225418

They even managed to hurt more of their "own people" than their enemy, and they even did it as the Israelis were leaving.

Why is there even any doubt that these organizations need to be dealt with? Not just for the good of the Israelis, but for the good of the Palestinians too.

 

[Adam]

I wonder, where did you get the idea that anyone doesn't want such organisations dealt with?

 

[kat]

Your one sided attacks against Israel without ne'er a mention of those organizations or the countries who sponsor them. That's where.

 

[Adam]

Your one sided attacks against Israel without ne'er a mention of those organizations or the countries who sponsor them. That's where.

I believe I have mentioned my opinion of terrorist groups in the past. If other readers are ill-informed, and too lazy to read all relevant information, it's hardly my fault. Grow up.

 

[kat]

Lol, riiiiight.

 

[member 5645]

I wonder, where did you get the idea that anyone doesn't want such organisations dealt with?

Because when we proposed that the last resolution condemning Israel should condemn hamas for their suicide bombings, EVERY OTHER member of the security council vetoed or abstained.

 

[jcsd]

Because when we proposed that the last resolution condemning Israel should condemn hamas for their suicide bombings, EVERY OTHER member of the security council vetoed or abstained.

Which one was that then? ANyway it is very rare, esp for the security council to condemn groups that aren't represnetives of a government as they are not bound by the UN charter. Israel has alos used this is in the past as a mealy-mouthed way of avoiding their UNSC mandated obligations by citing the failure of other groups to live up to the same resolutions meaning that most countries are reluctant to have UNSC reslutions that ask for action of Israel and Palestinain groups in the same resoltuions.

 

[jcsd]

Also note in the lastest attack they were atatcking a legitmate miltary target as indeed they did when they ambushed the soldiers. This can only be seen as a turen for a bettre as few would deny an occupied country the right to use deadly forvce against soldiers and settlers.

 

[member 5645]

Which one was that then? ANyway it is very rare, esp for the security council to condemn groups that aren't represnetives of a government as they are not bound by the UN charter. Israel has alos used this is in the past as a mealy-mouthed way of avoiding their UNSC mandated obligations by citing the failure of other groups to live up to the same resolutions meaning that most countries are reluctant to have UNSC reslutions that ask for action of Israel and Palestinain groups in the same resoltuions.

I don't remember the number.It was very recent. We responded with a veto to the condemnation of Israel only.
At this point, I'm fairly apathetic to any reasoning on WHY no one wants to condemen the terrorist groups and Israel at once. They both need it, and if this whole situation is only going to be politics then I care even less.

Either way, the question to me was "where did you get the idea that anyone doesn't want such organisations dealt with". The inaction on everyone's part but Israel says that is the case to me.

 

[jcsd]

The problem is that Israel's action is disproportionate, 13 of their soldiers die so they kill 41 people including at at a peaceful protest and 3 children shot in cold blood by snipers and demolish dozens of houses, a lot of them just to widen the streets to allow their tanks to go down them.

It's actions like these that only serve to create more terrorists you'd be a liar if you were a Palestinain after everything the Israelis have done to them over the years, you would not feel sympathetic to the suicide bombers.

There can never be peace will Israel is occupying the Wset Bank and Gaza because it is natural for people to fight occupation with any means they have. The terrorism situation was never anything approaching as bad as it is was in the 30 years of occupation before the current intifada and in those in those 30 years the occupation the Israelis never tried to justify the occupation by citing terrorism until now. Israel had many long years to leave the Gaza and the West Bank of it's own accord.