Determinant of a 3x3 matrix via row reduction

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with finding the determinant of a matrix and how to approach it using row operations and simplification. The determinant is ultimately found to be equal to (a-b)(b-c)(c-a).
  • #1
sooyong94
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Homework Statement


Show that the determinant of
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is (a-b)(b-c)(c-a)

Homework Equations


Row reduction, determinants

The Attempt at a Solution


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Apparently I got a (a-b)^2 instead of (a-b) when I multiplied them up. It would be grateful if someone can point me out where the mistakes are.
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  • #2
The problem is this. You seem to believe that when you perform a row operation: ##(a-c)R_2 - (a-b)R_3 \rightarrow R3##, the determinant remains unchanged.

To show you an easy example that this is not true:

## A = \begin{pmatrix}
1 & 2 \\
2 & 3
\end{pmatrix}##

It's obvious that this matrix has a determinant equal to ##-1##

Now perform: ##2R_1 + 3R_2 \rightarrow R_2##

Then, we obtain a new matrix A':

## A' = \begin{pmatrix}
1 & 2 \\
8 & 13
\end{pmatrix}##

And this matrix has a determinant equal to ##-3##
 
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  • #3
So any ideas to work it out then?
 
  • #4
sooyong94 said:
So any ideas to work it out then?

You were on the right track. I will give you this hint:

When you perform a row (kolom) operation:

##R_a + k*R_b \rightarrow R_a##, the determinant remains unchanged.
##l*R_a + R_b \rightarrow R _a##, the determinant is multiplied by ##l##.
##l*R_a + k*R_b \rightarrow R_a##, the determinant is multiplied by ##l##.

Where ##R_a## and ##R_b## are the a'th and the b'th row and ##k,l \in \mathbb{R}##

Now, keep in mind that you had something of the form ##l*R_a + k*R_b \rightarrow R_a##, so your determinant is multiplied with ##-(a-b)##. To make sure that the equality will still hold, multiply the determinant with the factor ##\frac{-1}{a-b}##.
 
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  • #5
sooyong94 said:
So any ideas to work it out then?

Why bother with row operations? Why not evaluate the determinant as it is and simplify?
 
  • #6
PeroK said:
Why bother with row operations? Why not evaluate the determinant as it is and simplify?

I supppose that's the exercise since it's in the title...
 
  • #7
sooyong94 said:
mistakes are.
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If you got this far, why not just take out the factors of ##(a-b)## and ##(c-a)## and you're nearly finished.
 

Related to Determinant of a 3x3 matrix via row reduction

1. What is the determinant of a 3x3 matrix?

The determinant of a 3x3 matrix is a numerical value that represents certain properties of the matrix. It is calculated using a specific formula and is used in many mathematical and scientific applications.

2. How is the determinant of a 3x3 matrix calculated?

The determinant of a 3x3 matrix can be calculated using the row reduction method, also known as the Gaussian elimination method. This involves manipulating the rows of the matrix until it is in a specific form, from which the determinant can be easily calculated.

3. What is the purpose of calculating the determinant of a 3x3 matrix?

The determinant of a 3x3 matrix is used to determine if the matrix has certain properties, such as invertibility and linear independence. It is also used in solving systems of linear equations and finding the inverse of a matrix.

4. Can the determinant of a 3x3 matrix be negative?

Yes, the determinant of a 3x3 matrix can be negative. The sign of the determinant is determined by the pattern of positive and negative numbers in the matrix, and it does not affect the calculation or its properties.

5. Are there any shortcuts or alternative methods to calculate the determinant of a 3x3 matrix?

Yes, there are other methods for calculating the determinant of a 3x3 matrix, such as the cofactor expansion method and the use of the determinant formula. However, the row reduction method is often the most efficient and widely used method for 3x3 matrices.

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