Curl and Convective Derivative

In summary, the question is whether the vector-valued function u satisfies the equation (∇×u)⋅((u⋅∇)u)=(u⋅∇)(∇×u)⋅u. This can be approached in two ways: using existing vector calculus identities or writing it out in full using coordinates and the definitions of dot product and curl. The correctness of this equation can only be confirmed by going through the algebraic steps.
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Suppose u is a vector-valued function. Is it true that
(∇×u)( (u⋅∇)u ) = (u⋅∇)(∇×u)⋅u

?

Please note the lack of a dot product on the first two terms of the RHS and the parenthesis around the second term of the LHS. I'm trying to understand whether these differential operators are associative.
 
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There will be two ways of doing this. One is using existing vector calculus identities, if there are ones that would be helpful. In the absence of that, one has to fall back on plan B: write it out in full in terms of coordinates, using
$$\nabla=\frac{\partial}{\partial x}+
\frac{\partial}{\partial y}+
\frac{\partial}{\partial z}$$

$$\mathbf{a\cdot b}=\sum_{k=1}^3 a_kb_k$$
and likewise the coordinate definition of curl.

My guess is that it's correct, but the only way to be sure is to wade through the algebra.
 

Related to Curl and Convective Derivative

1. What is the definition of Curl and Convective Derivative?

The Curl and Convective Derivative are mathematical operations used in vector calculus to describe how a vector field changes over space and time. The Curl measures the rotation of a vector field, while the Convective Derivative measures the change of a vector field as it moves through a fluid or other medium.

2. How are Curl and Convective Derivative related?

The Curl and Convective Derivative are related through the use of partial derivatives. The Convective Derivative can be expressed as the sum of the Curl and the dot product of the vector field with the gradient operator. In other words, the Convective Derivative takes into account both the rotation and the change in magnitude of the vector field.

3. What are the physical applications of Curl and Convective Derivative?

Curl and Convective Derivative have a wide range of physical applications, including fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, and weather forecasting. These operations are used to describe the behavior of vector fields in these systems and can help predict and analyze the movement of fluids and other physical phenomena.

4. How are Curl and Convective Derivative calculated?

The Curl and Convective Derivative are calculated using partial derivatives. The Curl can be calculated by taking the cross product of the gradient operator with the vector field, while the Convective Derivative can be calculated by taking the dot product of the gradient operator with the vector field and adding the Curl. These operations can also be expressed using vector calculus notation.

5. Are there any real-life examples that can help understand Curl and Convective Derivative?

One example of Curl and Convective Derivative in action is in the study of weather patterns. The Curl can be used to describe the rotation of winds in a storm, while the Convective Derivative can be used to track the movement and changes in intensity of the storm. This can help meteorologists make more accurate predictions about the path and strength of a storm.

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