Covariant derivative of a commutator (deriving Bianchi identity)

In summary, the conversation discusses the derivation of the Bianchi identity from the torsion tensor in a torsion-free space. The author explains that covariant differentiation of this identity with respect to a vector Z yields a third term, which can be obtained by choosing normal coordinates on a neighborhood of a given point. This allows for the simplification of the expression and the substitution of partial derivatives with covariant derivatives.
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Hi. I'm trying to understand a derivation of the Bianchi idenity which starts from the torsion tensor in a torsion free space;

$$ 0 = T(X,Y) = \nabla_X Y - \nabla_Y X - [X,Y]$$

according to the author, covariant differentiation of this identity with respect to a vector Z yields

$$$ 0 = \nabla_Z \{\nabla_X Y - \nabla_Y X - [X,Y]\} = \nabla_Z\nabla_X Y - \nabla_Z \nabla_Y X - \{ \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z + [Z,[X,Y]] \}$$.

The two first terms are obvious, but how does he arrive at the third term?
 
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Let ##p \in M## and choose normal coordinates on a neighborhood of ##p##.

Then ##[Z,[X,Y]]^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\partial_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\partial_{\nu} Z^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}Z^{\mu}|_p##

so ##\nabla_{Z}[X,Y]|_p = \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z|_p + [Z,[X,Y]]|_p##.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
Let ##p \in M## and choose normal coordinates on a neighborhood of ##p##.

Then ##[Z,[X,Y]]^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\partial_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\partial_{\nu} Z^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}Z^{\mu}|_p##

so ##\nabla_{Z}[X,Y]|_p = \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z|_p + [Z,[X,Y]]|_p##.

Thanks WbN! Was the point of choosing normal coordinates that you could immediately set ##\partial_\nu \to \nabla_\nu## within the neighbourhood?
 
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Hello,

Thank you for reaching out. The third term in the derivation is obtained by applying the Leibniz rule for covariant derivatives. This rule states that for any two vector fields, X and Y, and a third vector field Z, the covariant derivative of their commutator [X,Y] with respect to Z is given by:

$$ \nabla_Z [X,Y] = [\nabla_Z X, Y] + [X, \nabla_Z Y] $$

Using this rule, the third term in the derivation can be expanded as follows:

$$ \nabla_Z [X,Y] = [\nabla_Z \nabla_X Y - \nabla_Z \nabla_Y X, Z] + [\nabla_X Y, \nabla_Z Z] + [\nabla_Z X, \nabla_Z Y] $$

Since the covariant derivative is linear, we can rearrange these terms to get:

$$ \nabla_Z [X,Y] = \nabla_Z \nabla_X Y - \nabla_Z \nabla_Y X + [\nabla_Z X, \nabla_Z Y] + [Z, [\nabla_X Y, Z]] $$

Finally, since we are in a torsion-free space, the torsion tensor T(X,Y) = 0, so the last term can be simplified to [Z, [X,Y]]. This gives us the third term in the original derivation:

$$ \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z = [\nabla_Z \nabla_X Y - \nabla_Z \nabla_Y X, Z] + [Z, [\nabla_X Y, Z]] $$

I hope this explanation helps clarify the derivation. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Best,
 

Related to Covariant derivative of a commutator (deriving Bianchi identity)

1. What is a covariant derivative?

A covariant derivative is a mathematical tool used in differential geometry to measure how a vector field changes as it moves along a curved manifold. It takes into account the curvature of the manifold and ensures that the derivative is independent of the coordinate system chosen.

2. What is a commutator in the context of differential geometry?

In differential geometry, a commutator is an operation that measures the failure of two vector fields to commute with each other. It is defined as the difference between the vector fields' Lie derivatives and their individual derivatives, and it is used to determine how the vector fields change as they are transported along a curve on a manifold.

3. How is the covariant derivative of a commutator related to the Bianchi identity?

The covariant derivative of a commutator is directly related to the Bianchi identity, which is a fundamental equation in differential geometry. The Bianchi identity states that the covariant derivative of the Riemann curvature tensor is equal to the commutator of the covariant derivatives of the metric tensor. In other words, the covariant derivative of a commutator is essential for understanding the curvature of a manifold.

4. What is the significance of deriving the Bianchi identity?

Deriving the Bianchi identity is important because it allows us to understand the curvature of a manifold in terms of the metric tensor. This is crucial in many areas of physics, especially in general relativity, where the curvature of spacetime is related to the distribution of matter and energy.

5. How is the covariant derivative of a commutator calculated?

The covariant derivative of a commutator is calculated using the Levi-Civita connection, which is a way of defining a unique connection on a manifold that is compatible with its metric. This allows us to take into account the curvature of the manifold when calculating the derivative, resulting in a more accurate and meaningful result.

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