Cosmological redshift: Where does the energy go?

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between wavelength, energy, and the expanding metric of space in cosmology. It is concluded that the two ideas are not isomorphic and that energy is not conserved in a non-stationary spacetime. The concept of energy in general relativity is also questioned and it is noted that there is no clear definition for it. The idea of energy being converted to space is deemed meaningless in this context.
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A few small questions:

Observationally, why do we conclude that the metric of space is increasing, rather than that light increases in wavelength as it travels cosmological distances? Or are these two conclusions isomorphic?

Since wavelength is negatively correlated with energy, where does the energy go, when its wavelength increases?

EDIT: Don't tell me... the energy isn't being converted to space, is it? What would that even mean?
 
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Or are these two conclusions isomorphic?

Yes.

ellipsis said:
Since wavelength is negatively correlated with energy, where does the energy go, when its wavelength decreases?

Nowhere. Global energy conservation does not hold in a non-stationary spacetime. Locally, "energy" is frame-dependent anyway; the conserved quantity is 4-momentum, or more generally the stress-energy tensor. But that's only local, and the cosmological redshift is a global phenomenon.

See this article by Sean Carroll for more discussion of this point:

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2010/02/22/energy-is-not-conserved/

(Note that, towards the end, Carroll does consider an alternate way of interpreting what is going on: that the energy lost by the photons as the universe expands goes into spacetime, or "gravitational energy". But, as he notes, that interpretation raises as many questions as it answers. I agree with him that it is better just to say straight out that global energy conservation doesn't hold in GR in a non-stationary spacetime.)

ellipsis said:
the energy isn't being converted to space, is it?

No. As you surmise, that is meaningless.
 
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There is no point in talking about conservation of energy in GR when the concept is not even well defined. Like asking if a blue flower smells better than a Bluetooth.
 

Related to Cosmological redshift: Where does the energy go?

1. What is cosmological redshift?

Cosmological redshift refers to the phenomenon in which light from distant objects in the universe appears to be shifted towards the red end of the spectrum. This is caused by the expansion of the universe, which stretches the wavelengths of light as it travels through space.

2. How does cosmological redshift affect energy?

The energy of light is directly related to its wavelength. As the universe expands and stretches the wavelength of light, the energy of that light decreases. Therefore, cosmological redshift causes a decrease in the energy of light from distant objects in the universe.

3. Where does the energy go during cosmological redshift?

The energy does not actually go anywhere during cosmological redshift. It is simply spread out over a larger distance due to the expansion of the universe. This results in a decrease in energy density, but the total energy remains the same.

4. How does cosmological redshift affect our observations of the universe?

Cosmological redshift has a significant impact on our observations of the universe. It causes distant objects to appear redder and fainter than they actually are, which can make it difficult to accurately measure their properties. It also provides evidence for the expanding universe and helps us determine the distance and age of objects in the universe.

5. Can cosmological redshift be reversed?

No, cosmological redshift cannot be reversed. The expansion of the universe is an ongoing process and will continue to cause cosmological redshift. However, other factors such as the Doppler effect can cause redshift or blueshift in light, but these effects are different from cosmological redshift.

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