Cooling rates for Hydrogen and Neon gas

In summary, the question is asking how many seconds it will take for a mole of Hydrogen gas and Neon gas, both at 300 Kelvin, to cool to 120 Kelvin in separate vessels. The specific heats and thermal conductivities for each gas are given. By applying the equations for Newton's Law of Cooling and using the values for k and A, the calculations show that it will take approximately 53 seconds for Hydrogen to cool and 198 seconds for Neon to cool to 120 Kelvin.
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Homework Statement


1 mole of Hydrogen gas at 300 Kelvin is in a thin walled copper container vol 22.4 liters
surface area A = .476 M^2
In vessel #2 , 1 mole of Neon gas also 300 Kevin
The specific heat of H2= 5 cal/mole (K) Thermal conductivity (k) H2 = .0433 cal/sec. converts to .00866 deg K /sec
Specific heat Neon = 3 cal/mole (K) Thermal conductivity (k) Neon = .0116 cal/sec
converts to .0038 deg K/sec.
The surroundings are 100deg Kevin
How mant seconds for the gases to cool to 120 deg kelvin


Homework Equations


Since k is from Q/t = -kA (T2-T1)/L where T2 is fixed I am applying k to Newtons law of
cooling: T(t) = Tsurr + (Tvessal - T surr ) e^-kt



The Attempt at a Solution


For H2: 120K (t) = 100K + 200K e^-.00866t
2.3 = .00866 t t= 265 sec with kA t= 565 sec

for Neon 2.3=.0038t t= 605 sec with kA t =1292 sec
 
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morrobay said:

Homework Statement


1 mole of Hydrogen gas at 300 Kelvin is in a thin walled copper container vol 22.4 liters
surface area A = .476 M^2
In vessel #2 , 1 mole of Neon gas also 300 Kevin
The specific heat of H2= 5 cal/mole (K) Thermal conductivity (k) H2 = .0433 cal/sec. converts to .00866 deg K /sec
Specific heat Neon = 3 cal/mole (K) Thermal conductivity (k) Neon = .0116 cal/sec
converts to .0038 deg K/sec.
The surroundings are 100deg Kevin
How mant seconds for the gases to cool to 120 deg kelvin


Homework Equations


Since k is from Q/t = -kA (T2-T1)/L where T2 is fixed I am applying k to Newtons law of
cooling: T(t) = Tsurr + (Tvessal - T surr ) e^-kt



The Attempt at a Solution


For H2: 120K (t) = 100K + 200K e^-.00866t
2.3 = .00866 t t= 265 sec with kA t= 565 sec

for Neon 2.3=.0038t t= 605 sec with kA t =1292 sec

If converting k , the thermal conductivity, to Kevin/sec by way of dividing by the specific
heat was incorrect then this is a rework with k in cal/sec from table:
For Hydrogen, (t) 2.3 = .0433t t= 53sec
For Neon , (t) 2.3 = .0116t t=198sec

If this is not correct I would like to see someone work it out from the original problem
 

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What is the relationship between cooling rate and temperature for Hydrogen and Neon gas?

The cooling rate for Hydrogen and Neon gas is directly proportional to the temperature. This means that as the temperature decreases, so does the cooling rate.

What are the factors that affect the cooling rate of Hydrogen and Neon gas?

The cooling rate for Hydrogen and Neon gas is affected by several factors, including the initial temperature, pressure, and the specific heat capacity of the gas. Other factors such as the surrounding environment and the type of cooling method used may also play a role.

How can the cooling rate of Hydrogen and Neon gas be calculated or measured?

The cooling rate of Hydrogen and Neon gas can be calculated using the equation Q = mcΔT, where Q is the heat transferred, m is the mass of the gas, c is the specific heat capacity, and ΔT is the change in temperature. It can also be measured using a thermometer or other temperature measuring device.

What are the practical applications of understanding cooling rates for Hydrogen and Neon gas?

Understanding the cooling rates for Hydrogen and Neon gas is important in various industrial and scientific applications. For example, it can help in designing and optimizing cooling systems for gas storage or transportation, as well as in processes that require precise temperature control.

Are there any safety concerns related to cooling rates for Hydrogen and Neon gas?

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