Constant frequency of light and connection to QM

In summary, the conversation discusses the frequency of light and why it does not change under refraction. The textbook explanation is not satisfactory and there is a follow-up question about the connection to quantum mechanics. The explanation is that there must be the same electric field on both sides of the boundary, and if there were different frequencies on each side, there would be a constantly changing discontinuity. It is also noted that while velocity and wavelength can change, frequency remains the same. The conversation suggests reproducing the textbook explanation for further discussion. As a handwaving argument, the concept of a rope attached to a second rope with different mass per unit length is used to illustrate the idea of maintaining the same number of waves per second in different media.
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Could someone provide a good explanation as to why light's frequency doesn't change under refraction? The textbook I'm using gave us a two step derivation and I don't really feel like it did a proper job in explaining anything (it's Haliday).

Also, a slightly *crackpot* follow up question - does it have somewhat of a deeper connection to QM, and how photons don't change their velocity in different mediums?
 
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I think the most straightforward answer is, after all there has to be the same E field on both sides of the boundary. Imagine the E field oscillating with one frequency on one side, and with another frequency at the other. There would always be a constantly changing discontinuity.
 
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and how photons don't change their velocity in different mediums?
But they do... Velocity and wavelength change, but frequency stays the same (see post above by @rumborak ).
 
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Medtner said:
Could someone provide a good explanation as to why light's frequency doesn't change under refraction? The textbook I'm using gave us a two step derivation and I don't really feel like it did a proper job in explaining anything (it's Haliday).

As not all of us have that book available, maybe you could reproduce it's explanation so we would know where to start.

As a handwaving argument involving a different type of wave, think of a rope that is attached to a second rope with different mass per unit length (hence different wave speed). If you start transverse waves in the first rope segment, as the peak amplitude entered the second segment it would induce a wave peak in that segment, one for one for each wave generated. So the number of waves per second has to be the same in both media.
 
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Related to Constant frequency of light and connection to QM

What is the constant frequency of light?

The constant frequency of light refers to the fact that electromagnetic radiation, also known as light, always travels at the same speed in a vacuum, which is approximately 299,792,458 meters per second. This speed is often denoted by the letter "c" and is a fundamental constant in physics.

How is the constant frequency of light connected to quantum mechanics?

In quantum mechanics, light is described as a stream of particles called photons. These photons have a specific energy and momentum that are directly related to the frequency of light. The constant frequency of light is a crucial factor in understanding the behavior of photons and their interactions with matter.

Can the constant frequency of light change?

In a vacuum, the constant frequency of light remains the same. However, when light travels through a medium, such as water or glass, its speed decreases, and its wavelength and frequency change accordingly. This phenomenon is known as refraction and is one of the fundamental principles of optics.

How was the constant frequency of light determined?

The constant frequency of light was first calculated by physicist James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860s based on his equations for electromagnetism. Later, experiments by scientists such as Albert Michelson and Edward Morley in the late 1800s and early 1900s further confirmed the constant speed of light and its value.

Why is the constant frequency of light important?

The constant frequency of light is essential because it allows us to make accurate measurements and predictions about the behavior of light. It also plays a crucial role in various technologies, including telecommunications, GPS systems, and medical imaging. Additionally, the constant frequency of light is a fundamental concept in many areas of physics, including quantum mechanics and relativity.

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