Conservation of momentum without Newton's third law

In summary, the concept of momentum conservation can still be upheld in the absence of Newton's third law by considering the momentum carried by the electromagnetic field, which is defined in terms of a momentum density and can be transferred between particles through the electromagnetic force. However, proving this conservation requires the use of complex mathematical concepts.
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So I've recently read Newton's third law violates the principles of relativity. I only know how to prove conservation of momentum if Newton's third law holds. I was hoping someone could explain to me this (proving conservation of momentum when Newton's third law is false) without using extremely hefty mathematics, and specifically addressing E&M:

" It turns out that we can ``rescue'' momentum conservation by abandoning action at a distance theories, and instead adopting so-called field theories in which there is a medium, called a field, which transmits the force from one particle to another. In electromagnetism there are, in fact, two fields--the electric field, and the magnetic field." source: http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node28.html#e311Thanks.
 
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In a nutshell, the electromagnetic field carries momentum. We define this in terms of a momentum density (momentum per unit volume), as defined at the top of this page:

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node91.html

The total momentum of a system of particles and electromagnetic fields is the sum of the mechanical momenta of the particles plus the integral of the electromagnetic momentum density over all space. Momentum can be transferred between these two forms by way of the electromagnetic (Lorentz) force ##\vec F = q(\vec E + \vec v \times \vec B)##, but the total is conserved. Unfortunately, to prove that the total is conserved, you need to use a lot of "hefty mathematics" in the form of vector calculus.
 
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1. What is conservation of momentum?

Conservation of momentum is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the total momentum of a closed system remains constant over time, regardless of any internal interactions or external forces acting on the system.

2. How is momentum conserved without Newton's third law?

Momentum can be conserved without relying on Newton's third law, which states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is because momentum is a vector quantity that takes into account both the mass and velocity of an object, while Newton's third law only considers the force exerted on an object.

3. Can momentum be transferred between objects without Newton's third law?

Yes, momentum can still be transferred between objects without Newton's third law. This can occur through collisions or interactions between objects, where the total momentum before and after the interaction remains the same.

4. What are some real-life examples of conservation of momentum without Newton's third law?

One example is a rocket launching into space. The rocket's momentum is conserved as it gains speed and moves forward, without an equal and opposite force acting on it. Another example is a pendulum swinging back and forth, where the momentum is transferred between the pendulum and the supporting structure without any equal and opposite forces involved.

5. How does conservation of momentum without Newton's third law impact our understanding of physics?

Conservation of momentum without Newton's third law helps us to better understand the concept of momentum and its role in the behavior of objects in motion. It also allows us to accurately predict and explain the movement of objects in various scenarios, even when external forces are not present or are unequal.

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