Conservation of energy problem (projectile with air drag)

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of a stone being thrown vertically upward with an initial speed and experiencing a constant force due to air drag throughout its flight. The maximum height reached by the stone and its speed just before impact with the ground are calculated in parts (a) and (b) respectively. The conversation also mentions the equations for work done by an external force and change in energy, and the attempt at a solution for part (b). However, the last line of the solution is incorrect and the speaker asks for help in identifying the mistake.
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Homework Statement



A stone with weight w is thrown vertically upward into the air from ground level with initial speed v0. If a constant force f due to air drag acts on the stone throughout its flight, (a) show that the maximum height reached by the stone is

[tex] h = \frac{v_0^2}{2g(1+f/w)} [/tex]

(b) Show that the stone's speed is

[tex] v = v_0 \left( \frac{w-f}{w+f} \right) ^ {1/2} [/tex]

just before impact with the ground.

Homework Equations



work done by an external force = change in energy

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no trouble with part (a). I need help with (b)

[tex]\begin{align*}
W_{air} &= (-f) * (2h) \\
&= -2fh \\
&= -2f\frac{v_0^2}{2g(1+f/w)} \\
& = -2f\frac{v_0^2 w}{2g(w+f)}
\end{align*}[/tex]

[tex]W_{air} = \Delta E = \Delta K = \frac{1}{2}m(v^2 - v_0^2) = \frac{w}{2g}(v^2 - v_0^2)[/tex]

We can set the two expressions equal

[tex]\begin{align*}
-2f\frac{v_0^2 w}{2g(w+f)} &= \frac{w}{2g}(v^2 - v_0^2) \\
-2f\frac{v_0^2 }{(w+f)} &= v^2 - v_0^2 \\
v^2 &= v_0^2 + -2f\frac{v_0^2 }{w+f} \\
&= v_0^2 \left( \frac{1-2f}{w+f} \right)
\end{align*}[/tex]

But this is wrong. Can anyone tell me where I messed up?
 
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azure kitsune said:
[tex]\begin{align*}
v^2 &= v_0^2 + -2f\frac{v_0^2 }{w+f} \\
&= v_0^2 \left( \frac{1-2f}{w+f} \right)
\end{align*}[/tex]

But this is wrong. Can anyone tell me where I messed up?

Hi azure kitsune! :smile:

Only the last line is wrong. :cry:
 
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Waaahhhh! *feels so stupid!*

Thanks tiny-tim. :smile:
 

Related to Conservation of energy problem (projectile with air drag)

What is the conservation of energy problem for a projectile with air drag?

The conservation of energy problem for a projectile with air drag refers to the concept of conservation of energy in a system where a projectile is affected by air resistance. This means that the total energy of the projectile, which includes its kinetic energy and potential energy, remains constant throughout its motion.

Why is the conservation of energy important in this problem?

The conservation of energy is important in this problem because it allows us to predict the trajectory and motion of a projectile with air drag. It also helps us understand the role of different types of energy in the motion of the projectile and how they change as the projectile moves through the air.

How do you calculate the conservation of energy in this problem?

To calculate the conservation of energy in this problem, you need to consider all the forms of energy present in the system, including the initial kinetic energy, potential energy, and the energy lost due to air drag. You can use equations such as the work-energy theorem and the law of conservation of energy to calculate the total energy of the projectile at different points in its motion.

What factors affect the conservation of energy in a projectile with air drag?

The conservation of energy in a projectile with air drag can be affected by several factors, such as the initial velocity of the projectile, the mass of the projectile, the angle of launch, and the air resistance. These factors can impact the amount of kinetic energy and potential energy present in the system and how they change over time.

How does air drag impact the conservation of energy in this problem?

Air drag is a non-conservative force that acts in the opposite direction of the projectile's motion. This means that as the projectile moves through the air, it loses energy in the form of heat and sound due to air resistance. This loss of energy must be taken into account when calculating the conservation of energy in a projectile with air drag.

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