Confusing chain differentiation rule

In summary, the partial derivative of the composition f(g) involves multiplying the derivative of f with g, where g is a vector. The total derivative of g is a matrix and the total derivative of f is a vector, resulting in a vector for the composition. In a concrete example, h(x,y)=f(u(x,y),v(x,y)) and g(x,y)=(u(x,y),v(x,y)), one of the two partial derivatives of h is found by differentiating with respect to x. The other partial derivative is found by differentiating with respect to y. The formula for the partial derivative involves the partial derivatives of f and g with respect to their respective variables.
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If I have a function f from RxR to R, and a function g from RxR to RxR. What are the partial derivatives of the composition f(g)? I end up multiplying the derivative of f with g, but g is a vector? The partial derivative should have its image in R.
 
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Well, the total derivative of g is a matrix, whereas the total derivative of f is a vector. Together, they yield a vector.

Let's take a concrete example:
[tex]h(x,y)=f(u(x,y),v(x,y)), g(x,y)=(u(x,y),v(x,y))[/tex]
We have therefore, for example:
[tex]\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{u}}\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{v}}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{x}}[/tex]
This is then one of the two partial derivatives of h, the other being differentiation with respect to y.
 
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arildno said:
Well, the total derivative of g is a matrix, whereas the total derivative of f is a vector. Together, they yield a vector.

Let's take a concrete example:
[tex]h(x,y)=f(u(x,y),v(x,y)), g(x,y)=(u(x,y),v(x,y))[/tex]
We have therefore, for example:
[tex]\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{u}}\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{v}}\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{x}}[/tex]
This is then one of the two partial derivatives of h, the other being differentiation with respect to y.

what does
[tex]\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{u}}[/tex]
mean? Is the following formula correct?
[tex]\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)=\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}(u(a,b),v(a,b))\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)+\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{y}}(u(a,b),v(a,b))\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)[/tex]
 
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frb said:
what does
[tex]\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{u}}[/tex]
mean?
It means the partial derivative of f with respect to u, of course. What else could it mean?

Is the following formula correct?
[tex]\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)=\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}(u(a,b),v(a,b))\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)+\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{y}}(u(a,b),v(a,b))\frac{\partial{v}}{\partial{x}}(a,b)[/tex]
It doesn't make sense. If f(u(a,b),v(a,b)) makes any sense then f is a function of u and v, not x and y. You must mean [tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial u}[/tex] not [tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}[/tex].
 

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What is the confusing chain differentiation rule?

The confusing chain differentiation rule, also known as the chain rule, is a mathematical rule used to find the derivative of a composite function. It is often used in calculus to find the rate of change of one variable with respect to another.

Why is the chain rule confusing?

The chain rule can be confusing because it involves multiple functions and can be difficult to visualize. It also requires a good understanding of basic differentiation rules and algebraic manipulation.

How do I apply the chain rule?

To apply the chain rule, you must first identify the inner and outer functions of the composite function. Then, you can use the formula d/dx(f(g(x))) = f'(g(x)) * g'(x) to find the derivative.

Can the chain rule be used for higher order derivatives?

Yes, the chain rule can be used for higher order derivatives. To find the second derivative, for example, you would apply the chain rule twice.

Are there any tips for understanding and remembering the chain rule?

One tip for understanding the chain rule is to use the "inside-out" method, where you start with the inner function and work your way out. It is also helpful to practice with different examples and to break down the problem into smaller steps.

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