Conceptual question from Atomic Structure

In summary, Neil Bohr's model of electrons as charged particles moving in defined circular orbits around the nucleus failed due to not considering the wave nature of electrons and contradicting the uncertainty principle. Despite this, the formulas for calculating energy and radius of electrons in the nth orbit of a hydrogen atom are still used for quick calculations, but are now seen as artifacts of a deeper theory rather than conceptually meaningful.
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It is well known that, "Neil bohr failed in his model in which he described an electron as a charged particle moving in well defined circular orbits about the nucleus." However he failed because of the two major reasons..
a) It didn't consider the wave nature of the electrons
b) contradicts the uncertainity principle (which is true for microscopic particles).
so if the orbits are not "properly defined", whey then do we use the formula for the electrons in the nth orbit of a Hydrogen atom like...
the energy of an electron in the nth orbit = -RH (1/n2)
Radius of an electron in the nth orbit = a0 n2
i mean "if the theory of existence of such well defined trajectories is meaningless" then why not the formulas?
 
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dreamz25 said:
so if the orbits are not "properly defined", whey then do we use the formula for the electrons in the nth orbit of a Hydrogen atom like...
the energy of an electron in the nth orbit = -RH (1/n2)

We can get the discrete energies for the electron in hydrogen by solving the Schrödinger equation for the hydrogen atom, without any reference to "electron orbits."

Radius of an electron in the nth orbit = a0 n2

Nobody talks nowadays about the "radius of an electron orbit" except in a historical context when discussing Bohr's original theory.
 
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for a lot of quick calculations/estimates, Bohr's constants are fine, but they are not "conceptually" meaningful, if that makes sense. Especially in entry level classes before full QM is introduced, these formulas do come in handy, but now they are seen as artifacts of a deeper theory.
 

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1. What is an atom?

An atom is the basic unit of matter and the smallest particle of an element that retains the properties of that element. It is composed of a nucleus containing positively charged protons and neutral neutrons, surrounded by negatively charged electrons.

2. What is the atomic structure?

The atomic structure refers to the arrangement of the subatomic particles – protons, neutrons, and electrons – within an atom. These particles are arranged in distinct energy levels or shells, with the nucleus at the center and the electrons orbiting around it.

3. What is the significance of the atomic structure?

The atomic structure is significant because it determines the chemical and physical properties of an element. The number and arrangement of electrons in an atom determine its reactivity, while the number of protons in the nucleus determines its atomic number and identity as a specific element.

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