Component definition in curvilinear coordinates

In summary: This can be seen in the example given in the conversation, where the projection of the vector onto the x-axis is equal to the component of the vector in the x-direction, but this is not the case for the y-axis. In summary, the definition of projection and component remains the same in a curvilinear coordinate system, but the distances between two points with the same coordinate values will vary, causing the components to no longer directly correspond to the projections.
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I'm watching this lecture that gives an introduction to tensors. If we have a coordinate system that's an affine transformation of the Cartesian coordinate system, then the projection of a vector ##v## (onto a particular axis) is defined as ##v_m = v.e_m## or the dot product of the vector with the corresponding basis vector (mentioned at this timestamp).

Here the prof states that if the "distance representing each coordinate separation" were the same, then the projections would correspond to components of the vector, or that ##v_m=v.e_m=v^m##, where ##v=v^me_m## (Einstein summation convention).

First question: what's a precise way of defining "distance representing each coordinate separation"? Does it refer to the distance between ##x^m=k## and ##x^m=k+1## keeping all other coordinates fixed?

Second question: what do we do if the surfaces ##x^m=k## were curved (curvilinear coordinate system)? And even if they weren't curved, what if the "distance representing each coordinate separation" varied? In either case, how would you define a projection and how would you define a component?

A natural intuitive way of defining the projection/component for a curvilinear coordinate system with equally spaced coordinate separations would be something like this as far as I think:

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Would appreciate any help in clarifying my concepts!
 
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For the first question, yes, the "distance representing each coordinate separation" refers to the distance between two points with the same value for all coordinates except one. For example, if you have a Cartesian coordinate system, the distance between (1,2,3) and (1,2,4) would be the distance representing the coordinate separation for the third axis. For the second question, the definition of projection and component would still be the same as in the affine transformation case. The projection is still defined as the dot product of the vector with the corresponding basis vector and the component is still defined as the dot product of the vector with itself. However, in a curvilinear coordinate system, the distances between two points with the same values for all coordinates except one will not be the same. Therefore, the components of the vector will no longer correspond directly to the projections since the distances are not equal.
 

Related to Component definition in curvilinear coordinates

1. What are curvilinear coordinates?

Curvilinear coordinates are a system of coordinates used to describe the position of a point in space. Unlike Cartesian coordinates, which use straight lines, curvilinear coordinates use curves or surfaces to define the position of a point.

2. How are curvilinear coordinates different from Cartesian coordinates?

Curvilinear coordinates are different from Cartesian coordinates in that they use curves or surfaces to define the position of a point, while Cartesian coordinates use straight lines. Curvilinear coordinates are also more suitable for describing positions in systems with curved surfaces or boundaries.

3. What is a component in curvilinear coordinates?

A component in curvilinear coordinates is a scalar or vector quantity that describes a specific aspect of a point's position in the coordinate system. Examples of components include the radial, tangential, and normal components, which describe the position of a point with respect to a curved surface or boundary.

4. How are components defined in curvilinear coordinates?

Components in curvilinear coordinates are defined by using a coordinate transformation to convert the values from Cartesian coordinates to the desired curvilinear coordinate system. This transformation involves using a set of equations that relate the coordinates in the two systems.

5. Why are curvilinear coordinates useful in scientific research?

Curvilinear coordinates are useful in scientific research because they allow for a more accurate and efficient description of positions in systems with curved surfaces or boundaries. They are also essential in solving problems involving complex geometries, such as those found in fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, and general relativity.

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