Christoffel Connection & Curvature in GR: Understanding Singularities

In summary, the conversation discusses the definition of the Riemann curvature tensor and its relation to the Christoffel connection in General Relativity. The fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry is mentioned, which states that in any Riemannian manifold, the torsion free, metric compatible, connection is unique. The conditions for this theorem include the metric being symmetric, differentiable, and non-degenerate. The conversation also mentions the singularity of the Schwarzschild metric and the concept of curvature in gauge theory. The fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry only guarantees the uniqueness of the Levi-Civita connection when a positive definite metric is specified.
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binbagsss
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I'm looking at lecture notes on General Relativity by Sean M. Carroll, and after defining the Riemannanian tensor in the usual theorem, the extent to which the partial derivatives of a vector field fail to commute, it says ' having defined curvature tensor as something which characterizes the connection, in GR we are most concerned with the Christoffel connection. In this case the connection is derived from the metric, and the associated curvature may be thought of as that of the metric itself'.

I'm having trouble understanding this. What does the curvature describe otherwise? I've only heard of it being the metric itself.

Also, I think, 'in GR we are mot concerned with the Christoffel connection' comes from having the fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry holding , so we get that simple formula relating the connection to the metric. The conditions of the metric in this theorem are that it be 'symmetric, differentiable and non-degenerate'.
So, the unextended Schwarzschild metric has a singulaity at r=2GM, it's determinant is in indeterminate form, and is degenerate. So doesn't this mean that at a curavture singularity, because the conditions for the fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry to hold are not satisfied, the connection can not be given by the metric, and if I have interpreted the above statement correctly, the curvature computed from the Riemannian tensor will not be that associated with the metric? What does it represent then?

Thanks.
 
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First, partial derivatives always commute (as far as physicists are concerned anyways, since we are almost always dealing with smooth functions), and so the Riemann curvature tensor has nothing to do with whether partial derivatives commute or not. It has to do with whether covariant derivatives commute. An equivalent way of thinking about it is, the Riemann curvature tensor deals with the difference between a vector parallel transported around an infinitely small loop and the original vector itself.

For the purposes of GR, the connection will always arise from a metric, because in GR, a metric is always defined on a manifold. However, on a general manifold, there need not be a defined metric in order for a connection to be defined. In that case, the connection is not the "Christoffel connection" (I think the more generally used term would be the "Levi-Civita connection"). In a manifold without metric, a notion of curvature can still be defined the same way as with a metric, except the connection will no longer arise from a metric.

The fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry basically says that in any Riemannian manifold, the torsion free, metric compatible, connection (called the Levi-Civita connection) is unique. The fact that the metric must be symmetric and non-degenerate is in the definition of the metric, it has nothing to do with the fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry. Didn't you create another thread where I went over this?

I don't know what you're trying to ask with your Schwarzschild metric question. The "singularity at r=2GM" is not a real singularity but a coordinate singularity.
 
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binbagsss said:
I'm looking at lecture notes on General Relativity by Sean M. Carroll, and after defining the Riemannanian tensor in the usual theorem, the extent to which the partial derivatives of a vector field fail to commute, it says ' having defined curvature tensor as something which characterizes the connection, in GR we are most concerned with the Christoffel connection. In this case the connection is derived from the metric, and the associated curvature may be thought of as that of the metric itself'.

I'm having trouble understanding this. What does the curvature describe otherwise? I've only heard of it being the metric itself.
Thanks.

Curvature is better thought of as a property of the connection not of the metric. Any connection has a curvature tensor whether or not there is a metric. When one has a metric then one can derive the connection from it, which means that one can derive a connection that is both compatible with the metric and is torsion free. This is the Levi-Civita connection associated with the metric. From the Levi-Civita connection one gets the curvature in the same way as with any connection.

In gauge theory curvature of a connection (gauge field) is the field strength - though I would ask someone who actually knows some physics to explain this.
 
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Matterwave said:
The fact that the metric must be symmetric and non-degenerate is in the definition of the metric, it has nothing to do with the fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry.
Ok, I'm getting confused because the theorem includes these conditions in the statement, rather than just saying the metric
 
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lavinia said:
Curvature is better thought of as a property of the connection not of the metric. Any connection has a curvature tensor whether or not there is a metric. When one has a metric then one can derive the connection from it, which means that one can derive a connection that is both compatible with the metric and is torsion free.
And the formula is given by the fundamental theorem of riemann geometry? So is this just in Riemann geometry? Or whenever you have a metric is it Riemann geometry? Or what other formulas exist to get the connection from the metric?
 
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binbagsss said:
Ok, I'm getting confused because the theorem includes these conditions in the statement, rather than just saying the metric

Probably whatever source you are reading this stuff from included these statements as a simple reminder. For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_Riemannian_geometry does not mention the non-degenerate and symmetrical nature of the metric, since it is assumed.
 
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binbagsss said:
And the formula is given by the fundamental theorem of riemann geometry? So is this just in Riemann geometry? Or whenever you have a metric is it Riemann geometry? Or what other formulas exist to get the connection from the metric?

The fundamental theorem of Riemannian geometry guarantees that if you specify a torsion free, metric compatible connection on a Riemannian or Pseudo-Riemannian manifold, this connection will be the Levi-Civita connection. That's all it says.

Any manifold with a positive definite metric is called a Riemannian manifold. If the metric is not positive definite then the manifold is pseudo-Riemannian. If the manifold has no metric, then it is neither Riemannian nor pseudo-Riemannian.
 
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binbagsss said:
And the formula is given by the fundamental theorem of riemann geometry? So is this just in Riemann geometry? Or whenever you have a metric is it Riemann geometry? Or what other formulas exist to get the connection from the metric?

You get Riemannian geometry when the connection is compatible with a metric and is torsion free. As you said this is the fundamental theorem. But if the connection is not compatible with the metric you do not have Riemannian geometry.

When you have a connection then for each local frame there is a matrix of 1-forms - called the connection forms - that satisfies the formula

## ∇e_{i} = Σ_{j}ω_{ij}e_{j}##

If the connection is compatible with a metric and if ## {e_{i}}## is an orthonormal frame then
## ω_{ij} ## is a skew symmetric matrix. This will not be true for a general connection.

For a connection on the dual bundle, torsion free can be expressed with the additional formula

## de_{i} = Σ_{j} ω_{ij}##Λ##e_{j}##

This again will not be true for a general connection.

For any connection, the curvature matrix is defined by the equation

## Ω = dω + ω## Λ ##ω##

## Ω ## is a matrix of 2 forms and ##ω## is the connection matrix. ##ω## Λ ##ω## is the matrix product using the wedge product instead of ordinary multiplication.

Note that the formula for the curvature matrix does not depend on a metric but only on the connection.
 
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1. What is the Christoffel connection in General Relativity?

The Christoffel connection is a mathematical tool used in General Relativity (GR) to describe the curvature of spacetime. It represents the way that spacetime is curved due to the presence of mass and energy, and it is essential for understanding the behavior of particles and light in the theory of GR.

2. What is the significance of singularities in GR?

Singularities are points in spacetime where the curvature becomes infinite, and the laws of physics break down. In GR, singularities are often associated with black holes, which have a singularity at their center. Understanding singularities is crucial for understanding the behavior of objects in extreme gravitational fields.

3. How is the Christoffel connection related to curvature in GR?

The Christoffel connection is a mathematical object that describes how spacetime is curved in GR. It is related to the curvature of spacetime through the Einstein field equations, which relate the curvature of spacetime to the distribution of mass and energy.

4. Can the Christoffel connection and curvature be visualized?

The Christoffel connection and curvature can be visualized using mathematical tools such as tensor calculus and differential geometry. However, these concepts are difficult to visualize in everyday terms, as they are describing the curvature of a four-dimensional spacetime rather than the familiar three-dimensional space we experience.

5. How does understanding Christoffel connection and curvature help us understand the behavior of particles in extreme gravitational fields?

Understanding the Christoffel connection and curvature is crucial for understanding the behavior of particles in extreme gravitational fields, such as those near black holes. These concepts allow us to calculate the trajectories of particles and light in the curved spacetime of GR, and predict how they will behave in the intense gravitational fields near singularities.

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