Choas and the bridge from Classical to Quantum physics

In summary, the conversation discusses the possible connection between chaotic systems and quantum mechanics. It is suggested that there may be inherent uncertainty in the behavior of chaotic systems, similar to the uncertainty in quantum mechanics. The idea of "quantum chaos" is also mentioned and further explored in a book on the topic. The author's use of vocabulary is also noted.
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Has there been work done exploring the possible connection between chaotic systems and quantum mechanics?

Chaos basically tells us that an infinitesimal change in initial conditions, given enough time, will lead to complete different solutions - another way of stating that is over enough periods, two different initial conditions will lead to completely different behavior.

That is, that there is inherent uncertainty in the behavior of chaotic systems, because it is impossible to ever know the initial state of the system to an infinitesimal degree of precision. Does anyone else see the similarity to quantum mechanics in that statement?

On the atomic scale, systems oscillate at extremely high frequencies, generally on the order of a GHz or more. I don't think it's a huge stretch to at least propose that perhaps there is some sort of chaos inherent in these systems (after all, most D.E.'s in quantum mechanics are non-linear), and maybe that is the fundamental reason we have to treat QM statistically, rather than deterministically.

Is this a whacked out idea?
 
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atyy said:
http://chaosbook.org/

"Quantum chaos" is discussed in the latter part of the book.

Thanks! I read around a bit and found the book to be very interesting. By the way, is it me or does the author have a really good way with words and vocabulary (first few pages he uses a lot of nice ol vocabulary)? It looks effortlessly coherent.
 

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What is chaos theory and how does it relate to classical and quantum physics?

Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics and physics that studies the behavior of dynamic systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. It relates to classical and quantum physics in that it provides a framework for understanding complex systems and their unpredictable behavior, which cannot be fully explained by classical or quantum mechanics alone.

What is the butterfly effect and how does it demonstrate chaos in a system?

The butterfly effect is the idea that small changes in initial conditions can lead to drastically different outcomes in a chaotic system. This demonstrates chaos in a system because it shows how sensitive the system is to even the smallest changes, making it difficult to predict long-term behavior.

How does chaos theory challenge our understanding of determinism?

Chaos theory challenges our understanding of determinism by showing that even in a deterministic system, small changes can lead to vastly different outcomes. This means that even if we have complete knowledge of a system's initial conditions, we may not be able to predict its future behavior with certainty.

What is the connection between chaos theory and quantum mechanics?

The connection between chaos theory and quantum mechanics lies in the concept of "quantum chaos," which studies the chaotic behavior of quantum systems. It also helps to bridge the gap between classical and quantum mechanics by providing a framework for understanding the unpredictable behavior of quantum systems.

Can chaos theory help us understand and control complex systems in the real world?

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