Charge-Dipole Derivation - Assumption That x >> a

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of the Taylor Expansion in deriving a simplified formula for the electric field generated by a dipole. The assumption that x >> a allows for a simpler solution, while the exact solution given by equation (8) is used when x is not much greater than a. This approximation is useful when considering dipoles of atomic size, as it provides a good description of the field at larger distances. However, this topic was not thoroughly covered in class due to time constraints.
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In this derivation:

https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.../1599/files/2017/06/taylor_series-14rhgdo.pdf

they assume in equation (8) that x >> a in order to use the Taylor Expansion because a/x has difficult behavior. Why does that assumption work? Meaning, why can we assume the dipole is that much smaller? What happens if x is not much greater than a, then what would be the process to find a solution?
 
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They're simply saying that if you're far away from the charges (x >> a), then you can use the Taylor expansion to arrive at a nice simple formula for the field that goes like 1/r3. It's an approximation, but it gets closer to the truth, percentage-wise, as you go further from the charges.

If you're not far away from the charges, then you have to use the exact but somewhat messy solution, equation (8).
 
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The exact solution that works for any value of x is given by Equation (8) in the reference you quoted. For example, when you are at x = 0, the electric field is zero as should be obvious and as predicted by equation (8). One considers the behavior at x >> a because in that limit the exact expression becomes simplified. This limit has its use when, for example, you consider dipoles of atomic size. The fields they generate are usually observed at distance much larger than the size of an atom in which case the approximation gives a very good description of the field.
 
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Great! Thanks for those responses. There was never any time to ask questions like this in class. Always trying to cover too many chapters from the text every week, so they move too fast.
 

Related to Charge-Dipole Derivation - Assumption That x >> a

1. What is the assumption behind the charge-dipole derivation?

The charge-dipole derivation assumes that the distance between the point charges and the center of the dipole is much greater than the size of the dipole, denoted as x >> a. This allows for a simplified calculation of the electric potential and electric field produced by the dipole.

2. Why is the assumption x >> a important in the charge-dipole derivation?

The assumption x >> a is important because it allows us to consider the dipole as a single point charge located at the center of the dipole, simplifying the calculation of the electric potential and electric field. This assumption is also necessary for the dipole to have a well-defined direction.

3. Can the assumption x >> a be relaxed in the charge-dipole derivation?

Yes, the assumption x >> a can be relaxed in certain cases, such as when dealing with a dipole in a non-uniform electric field. In these cases, the dipole will experience a torque and its orientation will change, making the assumption x >> a no longer valid.

4. How does the assumption x >> a affect the accuracy of the charge-dipole derivation?

The assumption x >> a introduces a small error in the calculation of the electric potential and electric field, as it neglects the size of the dipole. However, this error is typically negligible in most practical situations and does not significantly affect the overall accuracy of the derivation.

5. What other assumptions are made in the charge-dipole derivation?

In addition to the assumption x >> a, the charge-dipole derivation also assumes that the dipole is composed of two point charges of equal magnitude but opposite sign, and that the charges are separated by a fixed distance a. It also assumes that the dipole is small compared to the distance x, and that the electric potential and electric field are being calculated far away from the dipole.

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