Change in relativistic momentum

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between force and the rate of change of relativistic momentum, as well as the use of this relation to obtain sensible results for particles. The conversation also addresses the proper notation and definition of force, emphasizing the difference between average and instantaneous force.
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kurious
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Is it alright to say that force = rate of change of relativistic momentum

F = [ m0 v2 / (1 - v2^2/c^2)^1/2 - m0 v1/(1 - v1^2/c^2)^1/2 )] / (t2 - t1)

and can this relation be used to get sensible results for particles?
 
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  • #2
kurious said:
Is it alright to say that force = rate of change of relativistic momentum

F = [ m0 v2 / (1 - v2^2/c^2)^1/2 - m0 v1/(1 - v1^2/c^2)^1/2 )] / (t2 - t1)

and can this relation be used to get sensible results for particles?
Thats close to ordinary force f. To be precise ordinary force f involves the limit of that as t2-t1 becomes infinitesimal dt in a calculus limit. Also, you shouldn't subscript the mass with a zero as it is invariant.
 
  • #3
DW is right, your notation is wrond. You must let t2-t1 approach 0, it must be alimit.
Here is the wau you want to write it:

[tex] F = \frac {d(\frac{mv}{\sqrt{1-v^2 / c^2}})}{dt} [/tex]
 
  • #4
Yes, but in general, you gain nothing in writing the differential equation in terms of velocity. Just leave it in momentum; equations are far simpler.
 
  • #5
kurious said:
Is it alright to say that force = rate of change of relativistic momentum..
Yes. Force is defined as

[tex]\bold F = \frac{d\bold p}{dt}[/tex]
F = [ m0 v2 / (1 - v2^2/c^2)^1/2 - m0 v1/(1 - v1^2/c^2)^1/2 )] / (t2 - t1)

and can this relation be used to get sensible results for particles?
That is the average force. The instantaneous force is F = dp/dt.

Pete
 
  • #6
pmb_phy said:
Yes. Force is defined as

[tex]\bold F = \frac{d\bold p}{dt}[/tex]
That is the average force. The instantaneous force is F = dp/dt.

Pete
Just to be clear to you, in light of the notation having been used here for a while, it is an expression for ordinary force f, not the four-vector force F.
 

Related to Change in relativistic momentum

1. What is relativistic momentum?

Relativistic momentum is a concept in physics that takes into account the effects of special relativity on an object's momentum. It differs from classical momentum in that it considers the object's mass, velocity, and the speed of light.

2. How does relativistic momentum differ from classical momentum?

Classical momentum only takes into account an object's mass and velocity, while relativistic momentum also takes into account the speed of light. This is because at high velocities, the object's mass increases and therefore affects its momentum.

3. How is relativistic momentum calculated?

The equation for relativistic momentum is p = mv / √(1 - v^2 / c^2), where p is momentum, m is mass, v is velocity, and c is the speed of light.

4. What is the significance of relativistic momentum?

Relativistic momentum is significant because it allows us to accurately describe the behavior of objects moving at high velocities, such as particles in particle accelerators. It also helps us understand the effects of special relativity on an object's momentum.

5. How does relativistic momentum change with velocity?

As an object's velocity approaches the speed of light, its relativistic momentum increases significantly. This means that at high velocities, the object's momentum is much greater than what would be predicted by classical momentum. As the object's velocity decreases, its relativistic momentum approaches its classical momentum.

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