Center of gravity of a portion of cylinder

In summary, The blue is the mass inside a cylinder. It can be regarded as a portion of the cylinder and its Center of gravity point is from either of the ends. However, it does not match with the 3D modeling software's answers for calculating the Center of gravity.
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The blue is the mass inside a cylinder. In steady condition, I would want to know where its Center of gravity point shall be from either of the ends. Technically its like one mentioned in figure # 2 .It can be regarded as a portion of cylinder

Trials :
1) Divided them as a rectangle and a triangle and tried to combine the CG . (answer did not match with 3D models)
Workout :

Combined Center of gravity = area of Rectangle*Center of gravity of Rectangle + Area of triangle* Center of gravity of triangle/(Area of Rectangle+ Area of Triangle)
In this case, (taking all from left end : CG=(500*50+250*33.33)/(500+250)

No clue why it doesn’t match with the 3D modeling software’s answers. Per software, Center of gravity = 41.89 from left Any ideas ?

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I don't understand how your first picture combines with the second.
 
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It's just to give an idea. However, if figure 2 is viewed from the side it translates to what I have in figure 1 except for the depth on right hand side of the filled portion
 
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If you look a Fig. 2, you'll see that cross sections cut thru the cylinder perpendicular to the centerline axis form circular segments. You can't simply use the dimensions from the side projection in Fig. 1 and calculate a meaningful result for a circular cylinder. If you had a rectangular tank, you could get away with it.

You can calculate an approximate value of the longitudinal c.g. of the contents by using numerical integration (e.g., Simpson's first rule) by figuring the area at a series of equally spaced cross sections and then calculating moments from one end of the cylinder. The final result should give you the volume of the contents and the first moment about one end, and you can calculate the c.g. by dividing the moment by the volume.
 
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You can calculate an approximate value of the longitudinal c.g. of the contents by using numerical integration (e.g. said:
Is there any example I can look at ?
 
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subbby said:
Is there any example I can look at ?

Yes, in this attachment:

http://www.pomorci.com/Skole/Stabilitet/STABILITY 10,11,12.pdf

You'll also want some info about calculating the areas of the various circular segments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_segment

In your calculation, the distance of the cross section from one end of the cylinder will be x, and the area of the cross section of the contents will be y, which is also called the ordinate. You'll want to create a table of these x and y values and then apply the Simpson's multipliers and the ordinate values. This type of calculation works well using a spreadsheet program like Excel.

Pay close attention to the end of the cylinder where the depth of the contents gradually vanishes. You may want to use more closely spaced cross sections in this region to improve accuracy.
 
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Related to Center of gravity of a portion of cylinder

1. What is the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder?

The center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder is the point where the entire weight of the portion can be considered to be concentrated. It is the point at which the portion will be in perfect balance, without any tilting or rotation, when placed on a flat surface.

2. How is the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder determined?

The center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder can be determined by considering the geometry of the portion and using the formula for center of mass. This involves finding the centroid of the portion, which is the point where all the mass is equally distributed in all directions.

3. Does the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder change if the portion is cut at different angles?

No, the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder will not change if the portion is cut at different angles. As long as the dimensions and mass of the portion remain the same, the center of gravity will remain at the same point.

4. What is the significance of the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder?

The center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder is important in determining the stability and balance of the portion. It is also useful in engineering and design, as it helps to determine the distribution of weight and the placement of support structures for the portion.

5. How can the center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder be used in practical applications?

The center of gravity of a portion of a cylinder can be used in various practical applications, such as in designing objects or structures that need to maintain balance, in calculating the weight distribution of a rotating cylinder, and in understanding the behavior of moving objects on a curved surface.

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