Capacitor and energy conservation

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of parallel plate ideal capacitors and the calculation of line integrals along a rectangular path. The conversation also mentions the conservation of energy and the complexities of the electric field when considering finite plates. Finally, it is noted that the electric potential exists and is unique, conservative, and path independent.
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Say, you have a parallel plate ideal capacitor and you choose a rectangular path, one side of which lies inside the region of electric field and the side parallel to that lies outside it.
The other two sides are obviously perpendicular to the field.

If I take this rectangular path then how is the line integral along this path zero. Because it is positive for one path and zero for three others.
What is wrong here?
The line integral must be zero for conservation of energy.


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The E-field you are probably having in mind is for an ideal plate capacitor with the plates being (infinitely expanded) planes. Thus, your parallel path lying outside the E-field doesn´t exist.
If, on the other hand, you consider finite plates your E-field becomes more complicated and thus your assumtions on the integrals (two lines being perpendicular to the field) are not true.
 
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Try this: the field is perpendicular to the plate. So, the line integrals along the two segments perpendicular to the plate cancel out. Note, this particular problem is often used to illustrate the various integral relations governing the eletric field.

(Clearly, the integrals along the paths parallel to the capacitor plate are zero. All of this, of course, says that the electric potential exists, and, given a zero point, is unique, conservative, and path independent.)

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Reilly Atkinson
 

Related to Capacitor and energy conservation

1. What is a capacitor and how does it work?

A capacitor is an electronic component that stores electrical energy in the form of an electric field. It consists of two conductive plates separated by an insulating material called a dielectric. When a voltage is applied to the capacitor, electrons accumulate on one plate, while the other plate becomes positively charged. This creates an electric field between the plates, which stores the energy.

2. How does a capacitor store energy?

When a capacitor is connected to a power source, the electrons from the negative plate are attracted to the positive plate, creating an electric field. This process continues until the charges on the plates are equal, and the capacitor is fully charged. The electric field between the plates acts as a barrier, preventing the charges from flowing back to their original positions. This stored energy can then be released when needed, such as in a circuit.

3. Can capacitors be used to conserve energy?

While capacitors can store and release energy, they cannot create or conserve energy. The energy stored in a capacitor must come from an external source. However, capacitors can be used in certain applications to improve energy efficiency, such as in power factor correction systems, where they help reduce energy waste in electrical systems.

4. Are capacitors affected by energy loss?

Capacitors can experience energy loss in the form of leakage current, where some of the stored energy may dissipate due to the imperfect insulating material between the plates. This can reduce the efficiency of the capacitor and may need to be taken into account in certain applications.

5. How do capacitors contribute to energy conservation in electronic devices?

Capacitors are commonly used in electronic devices to stabilize power supplies and filter out unwanted noise. This helps improve the efficiency of the device, reducing energy waste. Capacitors are also used in energy storage systems, such as in hybrid vehicles, to capture and release energy efficiently, making these devices more energy-efficient.

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