Can Real Roots in a Quadratic Guarantee a Root in a Quartic?

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In summary, proving real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations means finding the values of x that make the polynomial equation equal to 0, where x is greater than 1 and is a real number. It is important because it helps us understand the behavior of the polynomial function and can provide valuable information about the graph of the function. To prove real roots greater than 1, various methods such as factoring, the rational root theorem, or the quadratic formula can be used. A polynomial equation can have multiple real roots greater than 1. POTW #369 is a specific problem that may provide a polynomial equation for students to solve and prove the real roots greater than 1 using various methods.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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If the equation $ax^2+(c-b)x+(e-d)=0$ has real roots greater than 1, show that the equation $ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e=0$ has at least one real root.

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Congratulations to the following members for their correct solution!(Cool)

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2. Olinguito

Solution from castor28:
As dividing the equations by $a$ does not change their roots, we may assume that $a=1$ (the use of the plural in “real roots” implies that $a\ne0$). The equations become:
\begin{align*}
f(x)&=x^2 + (c-b)x + (d-e) = 0\\
g(x)&= x^4 + bx^3 +cx^2 + dx + e = 0
\end{align*}
As both roots of $f(x)$ are greater than $1$, we have:
\begin{align*}
c-b&<-2\\
d-e&>1
\end{align*}
We have now:
\begin{align*}
g(-1) &= 1 + (c-b) - (d-e)\\
&<1-2-1\\
&<-2
\end{align*}
As $g(x)\to+\infty$ when $x\to\pm\infty$, the intermediate value theorem shows that $g(x)$ has at least one real root.

Alternate solution from Olinguito
Let
$$f(x)\ =\ ax^2+(c-b)x+(e-d)$$
and
$$g(x)\ =\ ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e\ =\ f(x^2)+b(x^3+x^2)+d(x+1).$$
If $f(r)=0$ then $r>1$ and
$$g\left(\sqrt r\right)\ =\ b(r\sqrt r+r)+d(\sqrt r+1)\ =\ (\sqrt r+1)(br+d)$$
and
$$g\left(-\sqrt r\right)\ =\ b(-r\sqrt r+r)+d(-\sqrt r+1)\ =\ (-\sqrt r+1)(br+d).$$
If $br+d=0$, then $g(x)=0$ has real roots $\pm\sqrt r$. Otherwise (if $br+d\ne0$) one of $g(\sqrt r),\,g(-\sqrt r)$ is positive and the other negative, since $\sqrt r+1>0$ and $-\sqrt r+1<0$; in this case $g(x)=0$ has a real root between $-\sqrt r$ and $\sqrt r$.
 

Related to Can Real Roots in a Quadratic Guarantee a Root in a Quartic?

What is a polynomial equation?

A polynomial equation is an equation that consists of variables and coefficients, and only has operations of addition, subtraction, and multiplication. It can have one or more terms, with each term being a combination of a coefficient and one or more variables raised to a non-negative integer exponent.

What does it mean to have "real roots" in a polynomial equation?

Having "real roots" in a polynomial equation means that the solutions or values of the variables that make the equation true are real numbers. In other words, the solutions can be represented on the real number line.

What is the significance of proving real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations?

Proving real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations is significant because it helps determine the behavior and properties of the equation. It can also provide information about the number of solutions and the range of possible values for the variables.

What methods can be used to prove real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations?

There are several methods that can be used to prove real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations, such as the Rational Root Theorem, Descartes' Rule of Signs, and the Intermediate Value Theorem. These methods involve analyzing the coefficients and terms of the equation to determine the possible values of the roots.

Are there any exceptions to proving real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations?

Yes, there can be exceptions to proving real roots greater than 1 in polynomial equations. For example, if the equation has complex roots, then it may not be possible to prove real roots greater than 1. Additionally, certain equations may have unique properties that make it difficult to apply traditional methods of proving real roots.

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