Can permanent peace be acheived?

[Antiphon]

As long as there such a thing as right and wrong there will never be a permanent peace.

Alligators likely don't know right and wrong. They still make war on ducks and eat them.

 

[Triple_D]

No. Too many A-holes in the world.

 

[DR13]

Let's not foget about the Middle East. For there to be peace there, the world must either have a unified religion or no religion at all (neither of which will happen). All it takes is a few crazy suicide bomers to destroy peace.

 

[drankin]

Let's not foget about the Middle East. For there to be peace there, the world must either have a unified religion or no religion at all (neither of which will happen). All it takes is a few crazy suicide bomers to destroy peace.

They've been killing each other even though they are of the same religion for ions.

 

[Pythagorean]

Peace as a global way of life is possible, but I think it will take thousands of years of "social evolution". It won't be something that we convince everybody to do all at once, it's more likely something that will become part of developing a global society and/or the result of war homogenizing beliefs and peoples.

 

[WhoWee]

i hope this thread is not redundant

anyway, do you guys think that permenent peace practically can exist in this world? or balancing tension between the powers is the most feasible way?

I think you need to define "peace".

 

[WhoWee]

As long as there such a thing as right and wrong there will never be a permanent peace.

...more specifically - 2 opinions?

 

[DR13]

They've been killing each other even though they are of the same religion for ions.

Judism and Islam?

 

[Dale]

Judism and Islam?

Most of the violence in the middle east is muslim v. muslim. drankin may have been thinking of e.g. the centuries-old sunni v. shi'a violence which is still ongoing.

 

[russ_watters]

Let's not foget about the Middle East. For there to be peace there, the world must either have a unified religion or no religion at all (neither of which will happen). All it takes is a few crazy suicide bomers to destroy peace.

Perhaps it would be instructive to try to figure out how it happened in Europe and apply it to the ME. Prior to WWII, religious and ethnic differences drove many-a-war. After WWII, the nation-states decided that religion and ethnicity were silly reasons to go to war and just plain stopped. Remnants of the religious and ethnic hate remained, but slowly faded away. "A few crazy suicide bombers" and related terrorists used to kill a lot of people in the UK and Spain. But those have mostly gone away. Why?

 

[DR13]

Most of the violence in the middle east is muslim v. muslim. drankin may have been thinking of e.g. the centuries-old sunni v. shi'a violence which is still ongoing.

Ok. But there is still immense anti-semitism spread througout the middle east. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stated that he will not rest until Israel is wiped off of the map. He is also a Holocaust denier. People like this cause war.

I may have been better off saying differences in culture. That would be shi'a vs sunni. Ethnic cleansing is also a big problem in Africa.

Perhaps it would be instructive to try to figure out how it happened in Europe and apply it to the ME. Prior to WWII, religious and ethnic differences drove many-a-war. After WWII, the nation-states decided that religion and ethnicity were silly reasons to go to war and just plain stopped. Remnants of the religious and ethnic hate remained, but slowly faded away. "A few crazy suicide bombers" and related terrorists used to kill a lot of people in the UK and Spain. But those have mostly gone away. Why?

Maybe the develpoed nations stopped warring over religion and culture, but the undeveloped nations keep these kind of wars going constantly.
Also, would permanent peace mean no "small crimes". This means no murder, rape, burglary, etc. Or are we talking about nation-to-nation peace? It is necessary to define peace (As mentioned earlier)

 

[russ_watters]

Maybe the develpoed nations stopped warring over religion and culture, but the undeveloped nations keep these kind of wars going constantly.

So then the solution would seem to be obvious: development.

 

[DR13]

So then the solution would seem to be obvious: development.

But some nations, like Iran and many other Middle East and African nations, do not want to be developed. At least not developed by the "evil" western world. So to actually develop these nations we would have to be involved in many Iraq-type wars.

 

[russ_watters]

But some nations, like Iran and many other Middle East and African nations, do not want to be developed.

Maybe the current governments don't, but slowly but surely the people are starting to come around.