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I may be jumping the gun here because I have to start school first but is it possible to get a PHD while still working a full time job?
PookDo said:I may be jumping the gun here because I have to start school first but is it possible to get a PHD while still working a full time job?
PookDo said:I may be jumping the gun here because I have to start school first but is it possible to get a PHD while still working a full time job?
twofish-quant said:It's possible to finish a physics Ph.d. while having a full-time job, but that assumes that everything is pretty much done and all you are doing is final editing, since that's what I did. The physics Ph.D. isn't designed for full time work.
I'm not doubting you but that's very hard to believe. A PhD is a full time job, having another full time job that doesn't act as a detriment to a PhD seems unlikely. The person you are describing sounds very atypical.Lavabug said:I am close friends with someone who got his physics PhD done on quantum information in 4-5 years, publishing 4 papers along the way and getting cum laude awarded at his thesis defense. He (over)worked a full time job during the whole period. No stipend, nothing. Just the guidance of his thesis adviser and a whole damn lot of persistence.
Ryan_m_b said:I'm not doubting you but that's very hard to believe. A PhD is a full time job, having another full time job that doesn't act as a detriment to a PhD seems unlikely. The person you are describing sounds very atypical.
To the OP why exactly do you want to do both? Is it because you were unaware of PhD stipends or because you don't think the amount of money is enough? Workng 80+ hours a week might be good for your bank balance but your health, productivity and social life are likely to take a battering.
PookDo said:There has to be a way to do it.
If there is I will find it.I'm already not considered the norm if there is one.I'm starting school at almost 45 years of age. I want this bad. Really bad but I have myself and my wife to take care of as well
What is your long term plan? Why do you want a PhD? At best it will take you 6 years from the start of university to the end of your PhD but that could increase to 8 or more. I'm sorry to say that unless you can work 80+ hour weeks consistently for years you're going to have to cope with the stipend and perhaps some part time work.PookDo said:There has to be a way to do it.If there is I will find it.I'm already not considered the norm if there is one.I'm starting school at almost 45 years of age. I want this bad. Really bad but I have myself and my wife to take care of as well
Ryan_m_b said:I'm sorry to say that unless you can work 80+ hour weeks consistently for years you're going to have to cope with the stipend and perhaps some part time work.
The 80 hours number was on the basis that a standard full time job is a 40 hour week so two would be 80. The "+" is because in reality at times you need to put in far more for your PhD.twofish-quant said:It should be pointed out that as a graduate student, you will be working 80 hour weeks consistently for years because that's your job. With a second job, you run out of hours in a week.
That's not necessarily true. A person with a PhD has more career options and is more competative than someone who does not (all else being equal). Whilst things aren't as great as they used to be in terms of earning potential one could reasonably expect a living wage. Wrt social status well that really depends on your social circle.twofish-quant said:And then after you get the physics Ph.D., you are likely to end up with more or less the same job that you have now. It's a good idea to assume that getting a physics Ph.D. will contribute ***zero*** to your earnings potential or social status.
Ryan_m_b said:That's not necessarily true. A person with a PhD has more career options and is more competative than someone who does not (all else being equal). Whilst things aren't as great as they used to be in terms of earning potential one could reasonably expect a living wage. Wrt social status well that really depends on your social circle.
On the subject of earning money if that is the goal then a PhD isn't the way to go about. Not because you can't earn money but it would be easier to climb the career ladder in another field.
Yes, it is possible to balance a full-time job and a PhD program. However, it requires careful time management and dedication to both commitments. It is important to communicate openly with your employer and advisor to ensure that your workload is manageable.
Yes, many PhD programs value work experience and see it as a valuable asset for candidates. It can also be used to fulfill any required practical or research experience for the program.
The length of a PhD program varies depending on the field and individual circumstances. On average, it can take 4-6 years to complete a PhD while working full time. However, this timeline can be extended if the workload becomes overwhelming.
Some employers may offer support for employees pursuing a PhD, such as flexible work schedules or financial assistance. However, this varies depending on the employer and it is important to discuss this with them beforehand.
Pursuing a PhD while working full time can provide a steady income and practical experience in your field. It also allows for a balance between theoretical and practical knowledge, and can make you a more competitive job candidate in the future.