Calculating Wheel Forces on a Car with a Center of Mass Problem

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the force exerted by the ground on each wheel of a 1470 kg automobile with a wheel base of 2.70 m and a center of mass located 1.20 m behind the front axle. The method used is to use the sum of torque = 0 and choose a point of rotation where the force will cancel out. The equation used is 0 = (1.5)(14,406) - (2.7)(Ff) to find the force, taking into account the weight of the car and the distribution of the force over two tires.
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A 1470 kg automobile has a wheel base (the distance between the axles) of 2.70 m. The center of mass of the automobile is on the center line at a point 1.20 m behind the front axle. Find the force exerted by the ground on each wheel.

A bit confused here. Were going to use the sum of the torque = 0, using the center of mass (1.2m behind the front axle and 1.5m infront of the back) as our starting point. We need to find the force in kN on each wheel. So between the 4 wheels they must support 14,406 N (1470*9.8), i know this much but am confused where to go from here
 
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This is a basic equilibrium problem, so you'll have to use an equilibrium condition such as: The torques about any point must add to zero. (Choose points where the tires touch the ground as your pivot point.)

Write this mathematically and see what it tells you. (Realize that the same force is exerted on each of the two front tires since the center of mass is on the center line; the same logic applies to the back tires)
 
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Yes but what is the force..for example if you use the back wheels as the point of rotation the torque is zero as you said. Isn't the torque equation then:

0=(2.7)(Ff)
The 2.7 is the distance to the front wheels, the Ff is the force on the front wheels. The torque from the back wheels is canceled out because the distance is 0?
 
  • #4
You can choose the center of torque as you wish.. the result will be the same. It's best to choose the center of torque in a point where a force acts, so this force will cancel out. This simplifies your equations.

And don't forget... there's also a force caused by gravity. You forgot it in your previous post.
 
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Don't forget the torque due to the car's weight.
 
  • #6
Ahhhh

t=(1.5)(14,406)-(2.7)(Ff)

Got it now, thanks
 
  • #7
Right. And realize that the force you call Ff is distributed over two tires.
 

Related to Calculating Wheel Forces on a Car with a Center of Mass Problem

1. What is the "car center of mass"?

The center of mass of a car is the point where the entire weight of the car can be considered to act. It is the average position of all the mass of the car.

2. Why is it important to know the center of mass of a car?

Knowing the center of mass of a car is important for understanding its stability and handling. It can also help in designing safer and more efficient cars.

3. How is the center of mass of a car calculated?

The center of mass of a car can be calculated by finding the average position of all the mass in the car, taking into account the mass of each individual component and its distance from a reference point.

4. Can the center of mass of a car change?

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5. How does the center of mass affect a car's performance?

The location of the center of mass can affect a car's stability, handling, and cornering abilities. A car with a lower center of mass is more stable and can handle corners better than a car with a higher center of mass.

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