Calculating Electron Energy with Uncertainty Principle: Homework Example

In summary, the conversation discusses using the uncertainty principle to estimate the minimum energy of an electron confined to a spherical region of radius 0.1nm. The attempt at a solution involves using the uncertainty in position and momentum to calculate the total energy, but results in a value that is different from the given answer. Further discussion includes using the standard deviation method of statistics to derive the general uncertainty principle, but it is not clear how this helps solve the problem.
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Homework Statement



Using the uncertainty principle, estimate the minimum energy in electron volts of an electron confined to a spherical region of radius 0.1nm.

Homework Equations



delta-x * delta-p = h-bar / lamda

delta-y * delta-p = h-bar / lamda

delta-z * delta-p = h-bar / lamda

Energy = 0.5* p^2 / m

p = momentum
m = mass of electron

The Attempt at a Solution



By letting the uncertainty in position (delta-x, delta-y, delta-z) equal to r, I got 2.86eV :

Total energy = 3/8 * (h-bar^2 / r^2 * m)

But the answer should be ~ 10ev.
 
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[STRIKE]If the electron is confined in a spherical region, the uncertainty in X is given by [tex] \Delta X = X_{2} - X_{1} [/tex]

So taking the centre of the sphere as 0, you will have 0.1nm and -0.1nm as X[tex]_{2} [/tex] and X[tex]_{1} [/tex] respectively, [tex]\Delta[/tex]X will then be 0.2nm

Hope this helps ;)[/STRIKE]

Mulling it over a coffee. Brb.
 
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This will make matters worse by a factor of 4. Also on the right hand side of the uncertainty inequality there should be a 1/2, which would give an additional factor of 4 in the wrong direction. Are you sure the given answer is correct.
 
  • #4
Sure, no. I'll consider over a coffee.
 
  • #5
One can derive the general uncertainity principle by using the standard deviation method of statistics.
Here delta(x) and delta(p) are standard deviations.
(delta(x))^(2)=|<x^(2)>-<x>^(2)|
(delta(p))^(2)=|<p^(2)>-<p>^(2)|
 
  • #6
Deric Boyle said:
One can derive the general uncertainity principle by using the standard deviation method of statistics.
Here delta(x) and delta(p) are standard deviations.
(delta(x))^(2)=|<x^(2)>-<x>^(2)|
(delta(p))^(2)=|<p^(2)>-<p>^(2)|

So how does this help solving the problem at hand?
 

Related to Calculating Electron Energy with Uncertainty Principle: Homework Example

1. What is the uncertainty principle?

The uncertainty principle is a fundamental principle in quantum mechanics that states that it is impossible to know the exact position and momentum of a particle at the same time. This means that the more accurately we know the position of a particle, the less accurately we can know its momentum, and vice versa.

2. How is the uncertainty principle related to calculating electron energy?

The uncertainty principle is related to calculating electron energy because it tells us that the more precisely we know the position of an electron, the less precisely we can know its energy. This means that there is always a certain degree of uncertainty in the energy of an electron due to its position being uncertain.

3. What is the equation for calculating electron energy with uncertainty principle?

The equation for calculating electron energy with uncertainty principle is E = h/4πΔx, where E is the energy of the electron, h is Planck's constant, and Δx is the uncertainty in the position of the electron. This equation is also known as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

4. How does the uncertainty in position affect the calculation of electron energy?

The uncertainty in position has a direct effect on the calculation of electron energy. As the uncertainty in position increases, the uncertainty in energy also increases. This means that the more uncertain we are about the position of an electron, the less certain we can be about its energy.

5. Can the uncertainty principle be applied to other particles besides electrons?

Yes, the uncertainty principle can be applied to all particles, including protons, neutrons, and even larger objects such as atoms. It is a fundamental principle of quantum mechanics that applies to all particles and their properties.

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