Brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source

In summary, the rear detector would display a number that is less than the number displayed by the front detector.
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I don’t see that this question has been asked before and I am hoping the generous moderators of this forum will be able to answer it.

Suppose you have the “standard” situation with the man M on the embankment and the woman W in the center of the moving train car. (The train has lots of windows enabling M to see in.) W strikes a match (it’s a special kind of match that has a constant luminosity, L). The distance between W (and the match) and the front of the car is D1; the distance between W and the back of the car is D2. Since we assume W is in the exact middle, D1=D2.

At each end of the car is a brightness detector with a digital LCD readout. Brightness is equal to L/4[pi]r, I believe, where L is luminosity and r is the distance from the light source to the detector. The distance that the light travels from the match to the front detector is r1; the distance that the light travels from the match to the rear detector is r2.

Because the train is moving toward the front, r1 > r2. This should mean that the rear detector measures a level of brightness that is greater than that measured by the front detector. Thus the rear detector would display a number that is greater than the number displayed by the front detector.

Wouldn’t M and W see the same numbers? In the same train car going in the opposite direction, wouldn’t the rear detector display a number that is less than the number displayed by the front detector?
 
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Because the train is moving toward the front, r1 > r2. This should mean that the rear detector measures a level of brightness that is greater than that measured by the front detector.
You forgot the http://www.anu.edu.au/Physics/Searle/Obsolete/Seminar.html" (I found this site independently :wink: ).
Quick explanation: There are many effects you have to consider, all of which conspire to make the Lorentz Transformations valid. However, if you look at it differently: The LT are indeed valid (or, at least, self-consistent), and all those effects are simply derived from it. So it is no miracle that all works out self-consistently.
 
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Energy is a frame-variant quantity so luminosity (energy/time) and brightness (luminosity/area) are also frame variant. A detector moving away from a source will generally detect lower energy than one moving towards a source as the Doppler red-shift lowers the energy of the detected photons, but does not change the number of photons.
 
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Thanks very much! I wasn't aware of the headlight effect.
 

Related to Brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source

What is brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source?

Brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source is a scientific concept that refers to the amount of light that is detected by an observer moving towards or away from a light source.

How is brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source measured?

This can be measured by using a device called a spectrometer, which detects the intensity of light at different wavelengths. By comparing the intensity of light when moving towards a light source versus moving away from it, the brightness can be determined.

What factors can affect brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source?

The main factor that affects this is the distance between the observer and the light source. The closer the observer is to the light source, the brighter the light will appear when moving towards it and the dimmer when moving away from it. Other factors such as the intensity of the light source and the speed of the observer can also play a role.

Why is it important to study brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source?

Studying this concept can help us understand how light behaves and how it is perceived by observers. It also has practical applications, such as in astronomy, where the movement of stars and other celestial objects can be determined based on changes in their brightness relative to the observer's position.

Are there any real-world examples of brightness detected based on direction of travel relative to source?

Yes, an example of this can be seen in the Doppler effect, which is the change in frequency of a wave (such as light) when the observer is moving towards or away from the source. This effect is commonly observed in the change in pitch of a siren as a vehicle passes by, or the redshift and blueshift of light from stars as they move towards or away from Earth.

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