Bird & Trains: Calculating Distance & Speed

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of instantaneous velocity versus speed in a problem involving two trains and a bird. The trains are traveling towards each other at a speed of 34 km/h and a bird flying at 58 km/h flies back and forth between the trains until they eventually crash. The question asks for the number of trips the bird can make before the crash and the total distance traveled by the bird.
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using instantaneous vs. velocity/speed

Two trains, each having a speed of 34 km/h, are headed at each other on the same track. A bird that can fly 58 km/h flies off the front of one train when they are 102 km apart and heads directly for the other train. On reaching the other train it flies directly back to the first train, and so forth.

(a) How many trips can the bird make from one train to the other before they crash?

(b) what is the total distance traveled by the bird?

this is the image that i make...

http://www.soulroph.somee.com/trains[/URL] and bird.bmp[/PLAIN]

please help me to solve this kind of problem...

Thanks...
 
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A) The bird can make an infinite number of trips between the trains before they crash. This is because the trains are constantly moving towards each other, so the distance between them will always be decreasing. Therefore, the bird will never reach the trains and can continue flying back and forth indefinitely.

B) The total distance traveled by the bird can be calculated by considering each trip as a round trip from one train to the other and back. The distance between the trains when the bird starts its first trip is 102 km. The bird flies at a speed of 58 km/h, so it takes 102/58 = 1.76 hours to reach the other train. In this time, the trains have also moved 34*1.76 = 59.84 km closer to each other. This means that the bird has to fly a total distance of 59.84 km to reach the other train. On the return trip, the distance between the trains is now 102 - 59.84 = 42.16 km. The bird flies at 58 km/h, so it takes 42.16/58 = 0.73 hours to reach the first train. In this time, the trains have moved 34*0.73 = 24.82 km closer to each other. Therefore, the bird has to fly a total distance of 24.82 km to reach the first train.

This cycle continues for each trip, with the distance between the trains decreasing by 34 km for each round trip. So, the total distance traveled by the bird can be calculated as:
Distance traveled = 59.84 + 24.82 + (59.84-34) + (24.82-34) + (59.84-2*34) + (24.82-2*34) + ...
= 59.84 + 24.82 + 25.84 + 6.82 + 25.84 - 9.18 + 25.84 - 15.18 + ...
= 59.84 + 24.82 + 25.84 + 6.82 + 25.84 - 9.18 + 25.84 - 15.18 + ...
= 59.84 + 24.82 + 25.84 + 6.82 + 25.84 - 9.18 + 25.84 - 15.18
 

Related to Bird & Trains: Calculating Distance & Speed

1. What is the purpose of calculating distance and speed of birds and trains?

The purpose of calculating distance and speed of birds and trains is to better understand the movement and behavior of these animals and modes of transportation. This information can also be used for research and practical applications, such as predicting travel times and optimizing routes.

2. How do scientists calculate the distance and speed of birds and trains?

Scientists use various methods to calculate the distance and speed of birds and trains. For birds, they may use GPS tracking devices or observe their flight patterns and estimate their speed. For trains, they may use radar guns or track the time it takes for the train to travel a certain distance.

3. What factors can affect the distance and speed of birds and trains?

There are many factors that can affect the distance and speed of birds and trains, such as wind speed, terrain, weight, and physical limitations. For birds, factors such as weather conditions and flock behavior can also play a role. For trains, factors like track conditions and engine power can impact their speed.

4. Why is it important to calculate the distance and speed of birds and trains accurately?

Accurately calculating the distance and speed of birds and trains is important for many reasons. It can help scientists understand their behavior and movements, aid in developing more efficient transportation systems, and improve safety measures for both birds and trains.

5. Can the distance and speed of birds and trains be used to predict future trends?

Yes, the data collected from calculating the distance and speed of birds and trains can be used to predict future trends. This information can be valuable for urban planners, transportation companies, and conservation efforts to make informed decisions about infrastructure and wildlife management.

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