Asteroid Orbits: Finding r with Kepler's Laws

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the new radius of an asteroid in circular orbit around the sun after it has an impact with another asteroid. The equation (v1)^2/(v2)^2 = (r2)^2 / (r1)^2 is mentioned, as well as confusion about whether to use Kepler's second or third law. The conversation also mentions the importance of providing a detailed attempt and not posting problems or attempted solutions as image attachments or links.
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Homework Statement


An asteroid of mass m is in circular orbit of radius r around the sun with speed v.It has an impact with another asteroid of mass M and is kicked into a new circular orbit with a speed 1.5v.What is the radius of the new orbit in terms r?[/B]

Homework Equations

(v1)^2/(v2)^2 = (r2)^2 / (r1)^2[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution

is it using equations based on kepler's second law or third law.[/B]
 
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Hi sya, and welcome to Physics Forums!

You need to provide a more detailed attempt and show your work. Let us assume that your idea is correct, how would you use that to find the new radius?
 
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is it correct?i used based on kepler's third law.
 

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What you have used is Newton's gravitational law, not Kepler's laws. Also, we generally do not allow posting problems or attempted solutions as image attachments or links as it requires significantly more efforts from helpers. If you want people to help you, you should make the minimal effort of typing out the full problem and your full attempt at a solution in-forum. Please refer to the Guidelines for Students and Helpers as well as the Physics Forums General Guidelines for more information.
 
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Based on the given information, it seems like Kepler's second law would be more applicable to this scenario. This law states that the line connecting a planet to the sun sweeps out equal areas in equal times, which can be expressed as the conservation of angular momentum. In this case, the asteroid's angular momentum remains constant, so we can use the equation:

mvr = Mv'r'

Where m is the mass of the asteroid, v is its initial velocity, r is its initial radius, M is the mass of the other asteroid, v' is the final velocity after the impact, and r' is the final radius of the new orbit.

Using the given information, we can rearrange this equation to solve for r':

r' = (mv/ Mv') * r

Substituting in the values given in the problem, we get:

r' = (m/ M) * (1.5v/v) * r

Simplifying, we get:

r' = 1.5 * (m/ M) * r

Therefore, the radius of the new orbit is 1.5 times the initial radius, or in terms of r, it can be expressed as 1.5r.
 

Related to Asteroid Orbits: Finding r with Kepler's Laws

1. What are Kepler's Laws?

Kepler's Laws are three principles that describe the motion of planets and other objects in our solar system. They were developed by German astronomer Johannes Kepler in the early 17th century.

2. How do Kepler's Laws apply to asteroid orbits?

Kepler's Laws can be used to calculate the orbit of any object in our solar system, including asteroids. The first law, known as the Law of Ellipses, states that planets and other objects orbit the sun in elliptical paths. The second law, known as the Law of Equal Areas, describes the speed at which an object travels in its orbit. The third law, known as the Law of Harmonies, relates the orbital period of an object to its distance from the sun.

3. How can we use Kepler's Laws to find an asteroid's distance from the sun?

To find an asteroid's distance from the sun, we can use Kepler's third law. This law states that the square of the orbital period of an object is proportional to the cube of its distance from the sun. By measuring the orbital period of an asteroid and knowing the mass of the sun, we can calculate the asteroid's distance from the sun using this formula: r^3 = (G * M * T^2) / (4 * pi^2), where r is the distance, G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the sun, and T is the orbital period.

4. Can we use Kepler's Laws to predict the future path of an asteroid?

Yes, Kepler's Laws can be used to predict the future path of an asteroid. Once we have calculated the asteroid's distance from the sun using Kepler's third law, we can use the first and second laws to determine its orbital path. By knowing the asteroid's speed and direction of travel, we can predict where it will be in the future.

5. Are there any limitations to using Kepler's Laws for asteroid orbits?

While Kepler's Laws are useful for calculating the orbits of objects in our solar system, there are some limitations. These laws assume that the objects in orbit are only affected by the gravitational pull of the sun, and do not take into account other factors such as the gravitational pull of other objects or the effects of relativity. Additionally, the orbits of some asteroids may be influenced by other forces, such as collisions or interactions with other objects in space, making it more difficult to accurately predict their paths using Kepler's Laws alone.

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