Arbitrary value of the moment of a force

In summary, the moment of a force depends on the force magnitude, the choice of the moment reference point, and the distance from the reference point to the point of application of the force. However, the physical movement of an object under a single force will remain the same regardless of the moment reference point. Different values of the moment can produce the same physical situation, as linear quantities such as momentum and force vary depending on the location of the reference point. However, the effects match so that the rate of change in angular momentum will always match the applied torque, regardless of the reference point. Ultimately, the choice of reference point simply changes the coordinates used to describe the same physical reality.
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fog37
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Hello,
It is well know that the moment of a force ##F## depends on:
a) the force magnitude ##|F|##
b) the choice of the moment reference point ##P##
c) the distance (lever arm) from the point ##P## to the point of application of the force ##Q##.

That said, an object with a single force applied to it will experience a moment which will vary in magnitude and sign with difference choices of the moment reference point ##P##. However, physically, the object will move in one specific and unique way under that same force (rotation+translation). How do different values of the moment ##M## produce the same physical situation?

Maybe all angular quantities, like angle, angular velocity, angular acceleration, moment of inertia, rotational kinetic energy, etc. must be referred to that specific and arbitrarily chosen point ##P##?

In general, we refer vectorial quantities (position, velocity, acceleration) to the origin ##O## of the triad of Cartesian axes...
 
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fog37 said:
Hello,
It is well know that the moment of a force ##F## depends on:
a) the force magnitude ##|F|##
b) the choice of the moment reference point ##P##
c) the distance (lever arm) from the point ##P## to the point of application of the force ##Q##.

That said, an object with a single force applied to it will experience a moment which will vary in magnitude and sign with difference choices of the moment reference point ##P##. However, physically, the object will move in one specific and unique way under that same force (rotation+translation). How do different values of the moment ##M## produce the same physical situation?
The same linear momentum counts as a different amount of angular momentum depending on the location of the reference point.
The same linear force counts a a different amount of torque depending on the location of the reference point.

The two effects match so that no matter where you choose to put the reference point, the rate of change in angular momentum will match the applied torque. Moving the reference point simply gives a different set of coordinates to describe the same physical reality.
 

Related to Arbitrary value of the moment of a force

1. What is the moment of a force?

The moment of a force, also known as torque, is a measure of the rotational effect of a force on an object. It is calculated by multiplying the magnitude of the force by the perpendicular distance from the force to the axis of rotation.

2. What is the unit of measurement for moment of a force?

The moment of a force is typically measured in newton-meters (N*m) in the SI system or pound-feet (lb*ft) in the imperial system.

3. How is the moment of a force different from the force itself?

A force is a vector quantity that describes the push or pull on an object, while the moment of a force is a scalar quantity that describes the rotational effect of a force on an object.

4. How does the distance from the axis of rotation affect the moment of a force?

The longer the distance between the force and the axis of rotation, the greater the moment of the force will be. This is because the force will have a greater lever arm, or moment arm, to produce a rotational effect.

5. Can the moment of a force be negative?

Yes, the moment of a force can be negative. This occurs when the force causes a clockwise rotation, as opposed to a counterclockwise rotation, around the axis of rotation. The direction of the moment is determined by the right-hand rule.

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