Another question dealing with Frobenius method

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof of a given equation with analytic and single-valued coefficients in a punctured neighborhood of the origin having a solution of the form w(z) = f(z) ln z. It is deduced that f must also be a solution, however, making the substitution leads to messy terms that are not easy to see how they would vanish. It is pointed out that this is not always true, as seen in a counterexample. The requirement of p and q having poles at z = 0 is discussed, and it is noted that being analytic everywhere also means being analytic on a punctured neighborhood of the origin. Finally, the idea of creating a differential equation with singular coefficients at the origin is suggested to help
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This is another question I have trouble proving:

Suppose the coefficients of the equation: w'' + p(z)w' + q(z)w = 0 are analytic and single-valued in a punctured neighborhood of the origin. Suppose it is known that the function w(z) = f(z) ln z is a solution, where f is analytic and single-valued in a punctured neighborhood. Deduce that f is also a solution.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Can't you just make that substitution into the DE?
 
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When I make the substitution it becomes very messy and it is not easy to see that f is a solution. There are terms without the natural log which I can't see how they would vanish.
 
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Actually, it's clearly not true. Take p(z) = q(z) = 0. Try the solution w(z) = 1.
 
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Hmmm, it's probably because p and q are required to have poles at z = 0. p(z) = q(z) = 0 is analytic at z = 0.
 
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The nice thing about being everywhere analytic is that you're also analytic on a punctured neighborhood of the origin. :smile: Whether they're analytic at the origin or not is irrelevant.

If you're still not convinced, try making your own differential equation whose coefficients are singular at the origin. Mine had 1/z as a solution.
 
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Yes I agree with you now. Thanks.
 

Related to Another question dealing with Frobenius method

1. What is the Frobenius method?

The Frobenius method is a mathematical technique used to solve ordinary differential equations that cannot be solved by other methods such as separation of variables or substitution. It is particularly useful for equations with singular points or coefficients that are not constant.

2. How does the Frobenius method work?

The Frobenius method involves assuming a solution in the form of a power series and then finding the coefficients of the series by substituting it into the differential equation. The series is then manipulated to satisfy the differential equation and boundary conditions, resulting in a unique solution.

3. When is the Frobenius method used?

The Frobenius method is used when other methods of solving differential equations are not applicable, such as for equations with singular points or variable coefficients. It is also commonly used in problems involving physics and engineering, such as in quantum mechanics and heat transfer.

4. What are the limitations of the Frobenius method?

The Frobenius method can only be used to solve linear ordinary differential equations. It also requires some knowledge of power series and series manipulation, which can be challenging for some individuals. Additionally, the method may not always result in a solution, especially if the differential equation has a non-analytic solution.

5. Are there any real-world applications of the Frobenius method?

Yes, the Frobenius method has many applications in science and engineering. It is commonly used in problems involving heat transfer, quantum mechanics, and fluid mechanics. It is also used in the field of mathematical physics to solve equations related to elasticity, electromagnetism, and general relativity.

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