Angular momentum of identical particles

In summary, the conversation discusses the symmetries of multiplets when combining N spin 's' states. When N=2 and s=1/2 or 1, the multiplets have even or odd symmetry, but for different s's and N's, there can be other possibilities. The conversation also touches on the concept of mixed symmetry and its application to identical particles.
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When combining N spin 's' states, is it always true that each multiplet has even or odd symmetry?

I know that's the case for N=2 and s=1/2 or 1. For s=1/2, the triplet is symmetric and the singlet is antisymmetric. For s=1, the pentlet is symmetric, the triplet antisymmetric, and the singlet symmetric. But what about different s's and different N's?

Also, I'm a bit confused about terminology. If you have a 2-neutron bound state whose total spin is zero, that means it's antisymmetric in the spins, so it must be symmetric in orbital angular momentum, i.e., [tex]Y^{m1}_{l1}(x_1)Y^{m2}_{l2}(x_2) +Y^{m1}_{l1}(x_2)Y^{m2}_{l2}(x_1)[/tex]. Under parity, due to a property of spherical harmonics, the orbital part changes by just a factor $$(-1)^{l_1+l_2}$$.

However, I'm trying to make sense of the statement that if you have a 2-neutron bound state whose total spin is zero, that means it's antisymmetric in the spins, but must have an even total orbital angular momentum. Is that true? $$l_1+l_2$$ could be odd, but the total L could be even by taking the multiplet $$l_1+l_2-1$$ rather than highest multiplet as your total.
 
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geoduck said:
When combining N spin 's' states, is it always true that each multiplet has even or odd symmetry?

I know that's the case for N=2 and s=1/2 or 1. For s=1/2, the triplet is symmetric and the singlet is antisymmetric. For s=1, the pentlet is symmetric, the triplet antisymmetric, and the singlet symmetric. But what about different s's and different N's?
For two objects the only possible symmetries are "even" (symmetric) and "odd" (antisymmetric). But when N > 2 there are other possibilities. Each permutation of the N objects can be considered a group operation, and the group of all permutations on N objects is called the Symmetric Group SN. For example for N = 3 there are 6 possible permutations. In general there are N! When you talk about the symmetry possessed by a set of objects, you are talking about a representation of SN.

SN always has a representation which is totally symmetric, in which for example ψ(1,2,3) = ψ(2,1,3) and so on. And for N >1 there's a representation which is totally antisymmetric, in which ψ(1,2,3) = - ψ(2,1,3). But for N > 2 there are other representations as well, generally called mixed symmetry, in which neither relationship holds, and ψ(1,2,3) and ψ(2,1,3) are linearly independent.

This is discussed in many places, but usually in a rather abstract framework. Here's one paper which tries to be concrete. See especially his Example 3.2.
 
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Thanks. Does this mean that multiplets corresponding to mixed symmetry can never be states for identical particles, since they do not change by factors of -1 under exchange? So mixed symmetry only applies do distinct particles?
 
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geoduck said:
Thanks. Does this mean that multiplets corresponding to mixed symmetry can never be states for identical particles, since they do not change by factors of -1 under exchange? So mixed symmetry only applies do distinct particles?
Typically the particles' wavefunction will have several parts: a spin part, a space part, maybe other things like color, etc. For identical particles it's the complete wavefunction that must be symmetric or antisymmetric. So the spin part of the wavefunction can have mixed symmetry provided that the space part does also, and provided that their combination (tensor product) comes out right.
 

Related to Angular momentum of identical particles

1. What is angular momentum of identical particles?

The angular momentum of identical particles is a property that describes the rotation of a collection of particles around a fixed point or axis. It is a vector quantity that depends on the mass, velocity, and distribution of the particles within the system.

2. How is angular momentum calculated for identical particles?

The angular momentum of identical particles can be calculated using the formula L = Iω, where L is the angular momentum, I is the moment of inertia, and ω is the angular velocity. The moment of inertia is a measure of the particles' distribution and is equivalent to the sum of the particles' masses times the square of their distance from the axis of rotation.

3. Is the angular momentum conserved for identical particles?

Yes, the angular momentum of a system of identical particles is conserved as long as there are no external torques acting on the system. This is known as the law of conservation of angular momentum.

4. How does the angular momentum of identical particles affect their motion?

The angular momentum of identical particles affects their motion by causing them to rotate around a fixed point or axis. The magnitude and direction of the angular momentum determine the speed and direction of rotation.

5. Can angular momentum be transferred between identical particles?

Yes, angular momentum can be transferred between identical particles through collisions or interactions. In these cases, the total angular momentum of the system remains constant, but it may be redistributed among the individual particles.

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