Angular Momentum of a conical pendulum.

[Satvik Pandey]

Homework Statement

A small ball of mass m suspended from a ceiling at a point O by a thread of length l moves along a horizontal circle with constant angular velocity ##\omega##. Find the magnitude of increment of the vector of the ball's angular momentum relative to point O picked up during half of revolution.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

I[/B]nitial velocity of ball ##V_{i}=v\hat { j }##

Initial distance of the ball from O is (R)=##lsin\alpha\hat{i}-lcos\alpha\hat{k}##

Final velocity ##V_{f}=-V\hat{j}##

Final distance of the ball from O is ##-lsin\alpha\hat{i}-lcos\alpha\hat{k}##

Initial momentum is ##R## cross ##P##.

##L_{i}=mvLcos\alpha\hat{i}-mvlsin\alpha\hat{k}##

##L_{f}=-mvLcos\alpha\hat{i}+mvlsin\alpha\hat{k}##

##\delta L=-2mvLcos\alpha\hat{i}+2mvlsin\alpha\hat{k}##

So its magnitude is ##2mvL##

I got ##cos\alpha=\frac{g}{\omega^2l}## by writing the force equation.

Now ##v=lsin\alpha\omega##

Using this I got the answer

##2ml^{2}\omega\sqrt{1-\frac{g^{2}}{(\omega^{2}l)^2}}##

But the answer is incorrect.

 

[Satvik Pandey]

Can you guys tell me some applications like Daum Equation Editor for writing equations in LaTex. I don't why is it not working in my PC.

 

[ehild]

Check your coordinate system and the components of your vectors, they do not match

 

[Satvik Pandey]

Check your coordinate system and the components of your vectors, they do not match

I have considered the circle to be in X-Y plane.

I have shown the top view also.

For finding angular momentum of anybody about any point(say O) we drop any line from O to the line of the velocity of that body. Then we calculate ##\overrightarrow { R } \times \overrightarrow { p } ##. right?

So ##R_{i}=lsin(\alpha)\hat { i }- lcos(\alpha)\hat { k }##

 

[ehild]

I have considered the circle to be in X-Y plane.View attachment 77622

I have shown the top view also.

For finding angular momentum of anybody about any point(say O) we drop any line from O to the line of the velocity of that body. Then we calculate ##\overrightarrow { R } \times \overrightarrow { p } ##. right?

So ##R_{i}=lsin(\alpha)\hat { i }- lcos(\alpha)\hat { k }##

OK, but then the change the top right figure with the unit vectors. And check the signs in Li .
I got

##L_{i}=mvLcos\alpha\hat{i}+mvlsin\alpha\hat{k}##

 

[Satvik Pandey]

OK, but then the change the top right figure with the unit vectors. And check the signs in Li .
I got

##L_{i}=mvLcos\alpha\hat{i}+mvlsin\alpha\hat{k}##

Oh! I made a sign mistake. Now I got answer

##\frac { 2mgl }{ \omega } \sqrt { 1-{ \left( \frac { g }{ { \omega }^{ 2 }l } \right) }^{ 2 } } ##.

Thank you for the help.:)

 

[Poojan]

How is angular momentum conserved from the center of the circle

 

[haruspex]

How is angular momentum conserved from the center of the circle

You mean, about the centre of the circle?
What is the net force on the mass? Where does it point?