Angle Between Vectors given Ratio of Resultants, why is this wrong?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the angle between two vectors A and B with the same magnitude, given that the magnitude of their sum is 75 times greater than the magnitude of their difference. The solution involves using the cosine ratio and simplifying to find the angle in degrees or radians. The accuracy of the answer may also depend on the given precision.
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Homework Statement



Vectors A and B have the same magnitude. Given that the magnitude of A + B is 75 times greater than the magnitude of A - B, find the angle between them?


Homework Equations



We know that A=B, so:

2AB+2ABCos[itex]\theta[/itex]=75(2AB-2ABCos[itex]\theta[/itex])

Given that A=B

2A2+2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex]=75(2A2-2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex])


3. Attempt at a solution

2A2+2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex]=75(2A2-2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex])

Couldn't get latex to work for the fraction so:

2A2+2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex] divided by (2A2-2A2Cos[itex]\theta[/itex])=75

Factor out 2A2:

[itex]\frac{1+Cos}{1-cos}=75
1+Cos[itex]\theta[/itex]=75-75[itex]\theta[/itex]
-74=-76Cos[itex]\theta[/itex]
Cos[itex]\theta[/itex]=74/76
[itex]\theta[/itex]=Cos-1(74/76)
[itex]\theta[/itex]=13.2 deg

Apparently this is wrong, how so?
 
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Hey,
Actually, the way I see it, verifying your logic and procedure, it seems fine!
Are you sure they're not asking for the solution in radians?
It might also help, to get abit of order in your calculations, to mark it as this:
Assuming the angle between the two is theta(like you said), but the ratio, for the sake of generality, we'll call alpha, that gives us:
[itex]
\large
|A+B|=\alpha |A-B|, |A|=|B| \Longrightarrow A^2+2A^2\cos{\theta}+A^2 = \alpha(A^2-2A^2\cos{\theta}+A^2)
[/itex]
Dividing by 2*A^2:
[itex]
\large
1+\cos{\theta} = \alpha(1-\cos{\theta}) \Longrightarrow \cos{\theta} = \frac{\alpha-1}{\alpha+1}
[/itex]
Check to see that you have the proper answer key.
Are there any other considerations you may have overlooked?
Daniel
 
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Thanks for that, noted for next time. This is the question in exact form, I can't find anything I'm missing.

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  • #4
Try entering it in radians, namely: 0.229 ~ 0.23.
What's the typical accuracy, digit significance asked? are two decimal places usually sufficient?
If so, try either 0.229, 0.23.
Daniel
 
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There are a few issues with this solution. First, the equation used to solve for the angle between vectors A and B is incorrect. The correct equation is:

A + B = 75*(A - B)

This can be simplified to:

A + B = 75A - 75B

Next, the attempt at solving for the angle involves dividing by (2A^2 - 2A^2Cos\theta), which is equal to 0. This is not a valid mathematical operation.

Additionally, the use of the cosine function to solve for the angle assumes that the vectors are in the same direction, which may not necessarily be the case. The correct approach would be to use the dot product formula to find the angle between the vectors, taking into account their magnitudes and direction.

Overall, the solution provided does not accurately address the problem and does not use correct mathematical principles to solve for the angle between vectors.
 

Related to Angle Between Vectors given Ratio of Resultants, why is this wrong?

1. What is the angle between two vectors given their resultant ratio?

The angle between two vectors is not solely determined by their resultant ratio. Other factors, such as the magnitude and direction of the vectors, also play a role in determining the angle.

2. Why is it wrong to use only the resultant ratio to find the angle between vectors?

The resultant ratio does not provide enough information to accurately determine the angle between two vectors. It is important to consider all components of the vectors to calculate the angle correctly.

3. Can't we just use the Pythagorean theorem to find the angle between vectors if we know their resultant ratio?

No, the Pythagorean theorem only applies to right triangles and cannot be used to find the angle between two vectors. It also does not take into account the direction of the vectors, which is crucial in determining the angle.

4. Is there any situation where using the resultant ratio to find the angle between vectors is acceptable?

In some cases, if the vectors are known to be perpendicular to each other, the resultant ratio can be used to find the angle between them. However, in most cases, it is not a reliable method for calculating the angle.

5. Can we use the resultant ratio to find the angle between more than two vectors?

No, the resultant ratio can only be used to find the angle between two vectors. If there are more than two vectors involved, a different method, such as the dot product, must be used to calculate the angle.

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