An excercise in graviation by misner, thorne and wheeler

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In summary, the problem requires defining the direction unit vector $$\hat{n}$$ and the velocity vector $$\vec{\beta}$$ in the frame of the rocket with velocity $$\vec{\beta}$$, and showing that the Poynting vector vanishes in this frame. Using Lorentz transformations, the fields in the rocket frame can be expressed in terms of the fields in the rest frame, with the Lorentz factor ##\sqrt{1-\beta^2}##. However, it is not possible to assume that the cross product of the perpendicular components of the fields in the rocket frame will cancel out, as this must be shown. Further steps would be needed to complete the solution.
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Homework Statement


My question is on problem 4.1 of Gravitation. In a generic case of electric field and magnetic field(i.e not $$E=0$$ or $$B=0$$ or $$E$$ and $$B$$ perpendicular), define the direction $$\hat{n}$$ unit vector ,

$$\hat{n}\tanh (2\alpha)=\frac{2\vec{E}\times\vec{B}}{\vec{E}^{2}+\vec{B}^2}$$

and $$\vec{\beta}=\tanh(\alpha)\hat{n}$$

is the velocity vector.

Show in the frame of the rocket with velocity $$\vec{\beta}$$, the Poynting vector vanishes.

Homework Equations



\begin{align}
\bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}}&=\vec{E_{\parallel}}, \\
\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}&=\frac{\vec{E_{\perp}}+\vec{\beta}\times\vec{B_{\perp}}}{\sqrt{1-\beta^{2}}},\\
\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}}&=\vec{B_{\parallel}}, \\
\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}&=\frac{\vec{B_{\perp}}-\vec{\beta}\times\vec{E_{\perp}}}{\sqrt{1-\beta^{2}}}.
\end{align}
Note $$\beta\times X_{\perp}=\beta\times X$$


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried the following but I am stuck at the cancellation.

Let the $$\bar{\vec{E}}$$ and $$\bar{\vec{B}}$$ be the field in the rocket frame and the field without bars be the field of the rest frame. direction parallel along the velocity of rocket is denoted as subscript $$\parallel$$ and direction perpendicular to velocity of rocket direction is denoted by $$\perp$$ as the subscript.

By lorentz transformation.
\begin{align}
\bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}}&=\vec{E_{\parallel}}, \\
\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}&=\frac{\vec{E_{\perp}}+\vec{\beta}\times\vec{B_{\perp}}}{\sqrt{1-\beta^{2}}},\\
\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}}&=\vec{B_{\parallel}}, \\
\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}&=\frac{\vec{B_{\perp}}-\vec{\beta}\times\vec{E_{\perp}}}{\sqrt{1-\beta^{2}}}.
\end{align}
Note $\beta\times X_{\perp}$=$\beta\times X$

In barred frame,
\begin{align}
\bar{\vec{E}}\times\bar{\vec{B}}
&=(\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}+\bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}})\times(\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}+\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}})\\
&=\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}\times\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}}+\bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}}\times\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}.
\end{align}
Plug in the lorentz transformation. One gets

$$\frac{\vec{E}\times\vec{B}-\vec{E}_{\parallel}\times(\vec{\beta}\times\vec{E})-\vec{B}_{\parallel}\times(\vec{\beta}\times\vec{B})}{\sqrt{1-\beta^{2}}}.$$

Now the last two terms looks generically like $$\vec{X_{\parallel}}\times(\vec{\beta}\times\vec{X})$$ simplifies to $$\vec{X_{\perp}}(\vec{X}\cdot\vec{\beta})$$.

However, I could not see the cancellation at this stage any where. Did I do something wrong?
 
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Hello, zasdzcc.

How are ##\vec{E}## and ##\vec{B}## (in the original frame) oriented relative to the boost direction ##\vec{\beta}##? What does that tell you about ##\vec{E}_{\parallel}## and ##\vec{B}_{\parallel}##?

zasdzcc said:
In barred frame,
\begin{align}
\bar{\vec{E}}\times\bar{\vec{B}}
&=(\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}+\bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}})\times(\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}+\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}})\\
&=\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}}\times\bar{\vec{B_{\parallel}}}+ \bar{\vec{E_{\parallel}}}\times\bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}}.
\end{align}

EDIT: You can't assume that ##\bar{\vec{E_{\perp}}} \times \bar{\vec{B_{\perp}}} = 0##. That's something you need to show.
 
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