A geometric sequence within a arithmetic sequence

In summary, the main question is whether a sequence can be considered arithmetic if the difference between terms is changing according to a geometric sequence. The sequence given, 0.33, 0.3333, 0.333333, does not have a common difference or ratio, but is a sequence of partial sums of a geometric series. This means that each partial sum is a geometric series, but the overall sequence is not arithmetic or geometric. However, the sum of the series does give the desired sequence of 0.3333333.
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B4ssHunter
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the main question here is that can a sequence * arithmetic * be correct if the difference is also changing in terms of a geometric sequence ?\
now look at this sequence
0.33,0.3333,0.333333
now if we calculate the difference between the first two terms
its 0.0033
between the second and the third its
0.000033
the difference between the numbers goes as a geometric sequence
0.33,0.0033,0.000033 and the Ratio between them is 1/100
can this work as a sequence ? and if so what kind of sequence is it ?
 
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B4ssHunter said:
the main question here is that can a sequence * arithmetic * be correct if the difference is also changing in terms of a geometric sequence ?

What do you mean by "correct"?
 
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There are many different types of sequences. Some of the most common ones that we study are arithmetic and geometric sequences. Arithmetic sequences have a common difference while geometric sequences have a common ratio. If a sequence does not have a common difference or a common ratio then it is neither arithmetic or geometric but it is still a sequence.

For example:
1,2,3,4,5,6,... is arithmetic but not geometric
1,2,4,8,16,... is geometric but not arithmetic
1,4,9,16,25,... is neither arithmetic or geometric but is still a sequence

The sequence you mentioned is not arithmetic because it does not have a common difference. It is not geometric because there is no common ratio between terms. Actually, what you have is a sequence of partial sums of a geometric series.

For example:
S1 = 0.33
S2 = 0.33 + 0.0033
S3 = 0.33 + 0.0033 + 0.000033
etc.
So each partial sum individually is a geometric series but the sequence of partial sums is not arithmetic or geometric.

Hope that makes sense,
Junaid Mansuri
 
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junaid314159 said:
There are many different types of sequences. Some of the most common ones that we study are arithmetic and geometric sequences. Arithmetic sequences have a common difference while geometric sequences have a common ratio. If a sequence does not have a common difference or a common ratio then it is neither arithmetic or geometric but it is still a sequence.

For example:
1,2,3,4,5,6,... is arithmetic but not geometric
1,2,4,8,16,... is geometric but not arithmetic
1,4,9,16,25,... is neither arithmetic or geometric but is still a sequence

The sequence you mentioned is not arithmetic because it does not have a common difference. It is not geometric because there is no common ratio between terms. Actually, what you have is a sequence of partial sums of a geometric series.

For example:
S1 = 0.33
S2 = 0.33 + 0.0033
S3 = 0.33 + 0.0033 + 0.000033
etc.
So each partial sum individually is a geometric series but the sequence of partial sums is not arithmetic or geometric.

Hope that makes sense,
Junaid Mansuri

right that makes sense , i was thinking of this because my teacher told me once about how to make a sequence of a 3.3333333and so on , i didn't think of it as getting the sum at the end but rather each term would be 0.33 ,0.3333 and so on
so 0.333333333~ is actually a geometric sequence
where it goes like 0.3,0.03,0.003 and then in the end if we take the sum of the series it gives 0.3333333
 
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Yes, this can work as a sequence and it is a type of mixed sequence, specifically a combination of an arithmetic sequence and a geometric sequence. In an arithmetic sequence, the difference between consecutive terms remains constant, while in a geometric sequence, the ratio between consecutive terms remains constant. In this case, the difference between terms is changing in a geometric pattern, while still following an overall arithmetic pattern. This type of sequence is commonly referred to as a "mixed arithmetic-geometric sequence" or a "hybrid sequence." It is a valid sequence and can be used in various mathematical and scientific calculations.
 

Related to A geometric sequence within a arithmetic sequence

What is a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence?

An arithmetic sequence is a sequence of numbers where the difference between each consecutive term is constant. A geometric sequence is a sequence of numbers where each term is multiplied by a constant ratio to get the next term. A geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence is when the terms of the arithmetic sequence form a geometric sequence.

How do you identify a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence?

To identify a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence, you can look for a pattern where each term is multiplied by a constant ratio to get the next term. You can also calculate the ratio between each term and see if it is the same for all terms.

What is the formula for finding the nth term of a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence?

The formula for finding the nth term of a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence is an = a1 * rn-1, where an is the nth term, a1 is the first term, and r is the common ratio between each term.

How do you find the common ratio of a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence?

To find the common ratio, you can divide any term by the previous term. If the result is the same for all terms, then that is the common ratio. Alternatively, you can use the formula r = (an - an-1) / (an-1 - an-2), where an is the nth term, an-1 is the term before it, and an-2 is the term before that.

What are some real-life examples of a geometric sequence within an arithmetic sequence?

One real-life example is population growth, where the number of individuals added each year may form a geometric sequence within the overall population growth, which can be represented by an arithmetic sequence. Another example is compound interest, where the interest added each year may form a geometric sequence within the overall investment, which can be represented by an arithmetic sequence.

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