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The following was a post I put on another board , I received no feedback and haven't delved into the matter since posting (busy season ) . The prerequisites are that , there is a consensus that virtual particle pairs are entangled ( in an appeal to authority, two have assured me they are, in fact my first post here was to ask and I got no responce) and a basic knowledge of Hawking radiation and event horizons. So:
I have been examining both the cosmological impact and local QM effects of Hawking radiation which has raised two thoughts.
The first and more ordinary is with the Vaccume/ZP energy generation of particle pairs at the event horizon where one is swallowed and one ejected, the first law is preserved not only locally ( the virtual particle must express it self as a negative mass/energy quanta to balance the sides) , but also globally when the expression of the absorbed particle becomes determinate then both particles are no longer virtual and as the absorbed particles represents a net loss of mass/energy to the singularity, the ejected particles represents a net Gain of mass/energy to the universe. So even the eventual "evaporation" of the singularity will result in a conservation as the lost mass of the singularity is offset by the net gain of mass outside of the event horizon. The quantities are inversely proportional. This would most likely exist on a time scale greater then the predicted lifetime model of the universe for all but compact singularities. This seems to be a simple idea and must have been stated before . ( Hawking work is hard to find and harder to understand, J.Baez tho has many papers on the matter (HR )but I could not find any particular reference to this point.)
The second more interesting is that is if the VE/ZPE pairs are entangled and the entangled state holds and does not spontaneously break when the absorbsion/ejection takes place..then that represents information from INSIDE the event horizon which is supposedly inviolable. Again I have seen no declarative account of this violation of understood behavior of a BH.
Any comments?
To all: This is a GREAT site for all interested in the physics and math of GR , it is a John Baez site of links including software and tutorials from under to graduate level material and free courses!.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/relativity.html
I have been examining both the cosmological impact and local QM effects of Hawking radiation which has raised two thoughts.
The first and more ordinary is with the Vaccume/ZP energy generation of particle pairs at the event horizon where one is swallowed and one ejected, the first law is preserved not only locally ( the virtual particle must express it self as a negative mass/energy quanta to balance the sides) , but also globally when the expression of the absorbed particle becomes determinate then both particles are no longer virtual and as the absorbed particles represents a net loss of mass/energy to the singularity, the ejected particles represents a net Gain of mass/energy to the universe. So even the eventual "evaporation" of the singularity will result in a conservation as the lost mass of the singularity is offset by the net gain of mass outside of the event horizon. The quantities are inversely proportional. This would most likely exist on a time scale greater then the predicted lifetime model of the universe for all but compact singularities. This seems to be a simple idea and must have been stated before . ( Hawking work is hard to find and harder to understand, J.Baez tho has many papers on the matter (HR )but I could not find any particular reference to this point.)
The second more interesting is that is if the VE/ZPE pairs are entangled and the entangled state holds and does not spontaneously break when the absorbsion/ejection takes place..then that represents information from INSIDE the event horizon which is supposedly inviolable. Again I have seen no declarative account of this violation of understood behavior of a BH.
Any comments?
To all: This is a GREAT site for all interested in the physics and math of GR , it is a John Baez site of links including software and tutorials from under to graduate level material and free courses!.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/relativity.html
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