Would this be sufficient as a proof?

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In summary, the conversation involves discussing solutions to an equation using Vieta's formula and the quadratic discriminant. Suggestions are given to simplify the solution and the order of the solution attachments is mentioned. The first attached solution seems unrelated, while the second and third are related to the second question, but the logic in the third solution is backwards. The correct approach would be to start by stating that "it will only have real roots if..." followed by the use of the quadratic discriminant to prove that the equation has real roots.
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Vieta's formula, quadratic discriminant

3. The Attempt at a Solution
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suggestion for the first part: since ##\alpha,\beta## are solutions your equation as also a second form ##(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)=0## so you can expand this and proceed comparing with ##ax^{2}+2bx+c=0## ...
for the second part you must to look to the ##\Delta## of the equation ##ax^{2}+2mbx+nc=0## and to prove that is ##\geq 0## (observe that ##b^{2}-ac\geq 0## by assumption) ...

Your attempt at a solution is very long, I hope with my suggestions you will able to simplify ...
 
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I was a bit confused because the order of the solution attachments does not match the order of the questions. The last attachment appears to address the first question. As Ssnow writes, it is simpler to start with factorisation.

The first attached solution seems unrelated to the posted questions.

The second attached solution does seem to be related to the second posted question, but exactly how is unclear.

The third attached solution does address the second question, but the logic is backwards. You are asked to show that the equation has real roots, so you should not start with "if it has real roots". You could start with "it will only have real roots if..."
 

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