Why doesn't the earth spiral into the sun?

In summary, the conversation was about whether Earth's speed is affected by friction in space and the factors that contribute to it. The conclusion was that while there is a small loss of energy due to friction, it is negligible compared to the Earth's mass and other forces such as tidal effects from the sun and interactions with other celestial bodies. It was also noted that the Sun's loss of mass over time can also contribute to the Earth's movement in space.
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janvd
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Hi all!

If space isn't a true vacuum, why doesn't our Earth lose its speed due to friction?
I know that it's a near vacuum outside our atmosphere and the friction would be almost negligable. But in the course of a billion years, shouldn't it have an effect?
Why aren't we slowing down because of this? or are we?
 
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It does lose energy. It's just so small as to have almost no effect. Even over a billion years.
 
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Hi janvd.

It really is negligible.

Consider the scales here. 4,5 billion (109) years might sound like a lot of time, but the Earth is a seriously hefty lump of rock. It weighs 6*1024kg. It takes a lot to slow down such a juggernaut.

Let's compare the densities of Earth:
5,5 * 106 g/m3 (or, five and a half tons per cubic metre)
and vacuum:
3*1,5 * 10-24 g/m3 (or, three hydrogen atoms per cubic metre)

The Earth travels at 30 km/s through space, so each second it hits:

(∏*36*1012 m2) {Earth cross-section} * (3*107 m) {distance traveled in 1 second} * (3*1,5 * 10-24 g/m3) {density of vacuum} = 0,015 grams of matter.

multiply that by Earth's age:
0,015 * 4,5*109 {years} * 365 {days in a year} * 24 {hours in a day} * 3600 {seconds in an hour} = 2 * 1012 kg

Or, the Earth managed to hit some two billion tons of hydrogen during its life so far*.
Compare that to Earth's total mass: 6 000 000 000 000 billion tons.
That's 3 trillion times more.

Quite negligible, I'd say.


*that's of course assuming there has always been the same density of dust in vacuum, which is obviously not true, but is not a terribly bad approximation for this kind of calculations.


Additionally, it's worth noting that tidal effects of the Sun have much more significant effect on Earth, transferring its rotational angular momentum into its orbital angular momentum(which translates to increasing orbit radius). So overall, the Earth is actually spiralling outwards.
 
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Not to mention the Sun is losing mass over time, leading to less gravity, also causing us to move outwards from it.
 
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Thanks for the replies!
 
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I doubt with such a low density we can even call it a "friction".
Other forces probably have comparable or greater effect. For instance, constant bombardment of photons from sun, magnetic fields interactions, gravity from other planets...
 

Related to Why doesn't the earth spiral into the sun?

1. Why doesn't the earth spiral into the sun?

The earth does not spiral into the sun because of its constant velocity and the gravitational pull between the two bodies. The earth's orbit around the sun is a result of the balance between its forward motion and the sun's gravitational pull.

2. What keeps the earth in its orbit around the sun?

The earth's orbit is maintained by the force of gravity between the earth and the sun. The sun's massive gravitational pull keeps the earth in its elliptical orbit, while the earth's constant velocity prevents it from falling into the sun.

3. Why doesn't the earth get closer to the sun over time?

The earth does not get closer to the sun over time because of its angular momentum. Angular momentum is the product of an object's mass, velocity, and distance from the center of rotation. The earth's angular momentum keeps it in a stable orbit around the sun.

4. Can the earth's orbit change over time?

Yes, the earth's orbit can change over time due to various factors such as gravitational interactions with other planets, solar winds, and tidal forces from the moon. However, these changes are relatively small and do not cause the earth to spiral into the sun.

5. Is the earth's orbit perfectly circular?

No, the earth's orbit is not perfectly circular. It is slightly elliptical, with the sun at one of the two foci. This means that the earth's distance from the sun varies slightly throughout its orbit, but it remains within a relatively stable range due to the balance of gravitational forces.

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