Why Do Different Kinematic Equations Yield Different Results for Free Fall?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of finding final velocity and distance using equations for free fall. The initial equation used, V(final) = V(final) - V(initial) = at, was rearranged incorrectly and the correct rearrangement is x = (a-b)/c. The conversation also touches on using the equation x = xi + vit + .5at^2 to calculate acceleration in a given scenario.
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dolpho
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Homework Statement



Upton Chuck is riding the Giant Drop at Great America. If Upton free falls for 2.6 seconds, what will be his final velocity and how far will he fall?

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The Attempt at a Solution



Finding V(final)= Vf-Vi = at ---> Vf = (-9.81)(2.6) = 25.5

The second part is a little confusing. Why don't these equations come out with the same answer?

Vf^2 = Vi^2+2a(DeltaX)...Rearranged to... -DeltaX = 0 + 2(9.81) - 25^2 = 650meters something which doesn't really make sense.

The other I used was X= 1/2at^2 = 33meters

The second is the correct answer but why didn't the equation I do work? Since we know the initial is 0, the final is 25.5. We also know the time.
 
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dolpho said:
Vf^2 = Vi^2+2a(DeltaX)...Rearranged to... -DeltaX = 0 + 2(9.81) - 25^2 = 650meters something which doesn't really make sense.
Your rearrangement is incorrect. Give it another shot.

Try this first: If you had an equation a = b + cx, how would you solve for x?
 
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Doc Al said:
Your rearrangement is incorrect. Give it another shot.

Try this first: If you had an equation a = b + cx, how would you solve for x?

Couldn't I just move B over and then divide by C

a-b / c = x
 
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dolpho said:
Couldn't I just move B over and then divide by C

a-b / c = x
Exactly. But I'd write it as x = (a-b)/c.

Now do the same thing with your equation. They are similar.
 
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Your algebra is wrong .

25^2 = 0 + 19.62x, solve for x. You shouldn't be using that equation because if you got Vf wrong in part 1, then this part would also be wrong. You can use it as a check after you use the x = .5gt^2 equation.
 
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Doc Al said:
Exactly. But I'd write it as x = (a-b)/c.

Now do the same thing with your equation. They are similar.

Ok so, V^2 = U^2 + 2aD

D = -V^2 / -2A

Ohhhhh, heheheh oops lol. I totally knew that but I tried to rush it. Sorry I have one more question.

A car starts from rest and accelerates uniformly over a time of 5.21 seconds for a distance of 110 m. Determine the acceleration of the car.

So the reason I can't use V= D / T is because that only calculates average or constant velocity? So instead I'd have to use x = xi + vit + .5at^2?
 
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dolpho said:
So the reason I can't use V= D / T is because that only calculates average or constant velocity? So instead I'd have to use x = xi + vit + .5at^2?
Right.

If you know how to relate average velocity (given by D/T) to the final velocity, you can use that method as well.
 

Related to Why Do Different Kinematic Equations Yield Different Results for Free Fall?

1. What are kinematic equations?

Kinematic equations are mathematical formulas used to describe the motion of objects. They involve variables such as displacement, velocity, acceleration, and time.

2. Why do people get confused about kinematic equations?

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To determine which kinematic equation to use, you need to identify which variables are known and which one you are trying to solve for. Then, you can use the equation that includes those variables and solve for the unknown quantity.

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