Why D + D Reactions Don't Produce He4: Understanding Nuclear Fusion

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In summary, according to my research, two reactions are equally probable: D + D > He3 + n, and D + D > T + p. All of these reactions are exothermic, conserve mass, and conserve the number of nucleons. What other rules/conservation laws apply here? What other rules/conservation laws apply here?
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The title pretty much says it all. According to my research there are 2 equally probable deuterium-deuterium reactions:

D + D > He3 + n
D + D > T + p

So what prevents D + D > He4 from happening? All these reactions are exothermic, conserve mass, and conserve the number of nucleons. What other rules/conservation laws apply here?
 
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Knuckles said:
What other rules/conservation laws apply here?
Knuckles,

Conservation of momentum for one. If we had D + D --> He4; look at the reaction in the
center of mass frame of the He4 nucleus. In the center of mass frame of the product He4;
the total momentum is zero. So the total momentum of the incoming deuterons would
also have to be zero in that reference frame. The total kinetic energy after the fusion
reaction would also have to be zero in this reference frame.

You have to be able to conserve BOTH momentum and energy [ including the Q - the
energy released by the reaction ] in that reference frame.

Dr. Gregory Greenman
Physicist
 
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So you're saying that if we COULD have reactions with only one product, then we would always be free to consider the centre of mass frame of that product and calculate the product's kinetic energy as 0... and this would be a contradiction because the initial kinetic energy and the Q released by the reaction would both, apparently, have vanished? Could we have the extra energy carried away in one or more gamma rays?
 
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Knuckles said:
Could we have the extra energy carried away in one or more gamma rays?
Knuckles,

Try it. You know the relationship between energy and momentum for a photon: E = pc
where E is the energy, p is the momentum, and c is the speed of light.

You have to conserve BOTH momentum and energy.

The Q of the reaction that you propose would be just under 24 MeV. [ Use the masses of D and He4 ]

Try to conserve both momentum and energy for this reaction. Both energy and momentum have to
be conserved in ALL frames - but my hint of using the center of mass frame of the product He4 helps
make it simpler since if it is the only product - the momentum in that frame is zero. If you have a
photon too - then the momentum will be non-zero because a photon has momentum in all frames;
but it will be smaller than if you had a nucleus recoiling.

Dr. Gregory Greenman
Physicist
 
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In fact, the problem is that, as Morbius pointed out, that as we have only one particle in the final state, that the energy cannot be kinetic energy, but must be internal energy.

Now, such reactions are a priori not impossible: it could be that the final state is in an excited state with just enough extra excitation energy to be possible.

Now, when we look at the NNDC chart (see http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/chart/reCenter.jsp?z=1&n=1) we see that the mass excess of D is 13.1357 MeV, and that the mass surplus of He-4 is 2.4249 MeV. That means that if the two D nucleae are coming in at very low energy (difficult to do already because of electrostatic repulsion...), we have a Q for this reaction of 2 x 13.1357 - 2.4249 MeV = 23.8465 MeV.
So this means that we should find an excited state of the helium-4 nucleus with an excitation energy of something like 23.8 MeV for it to be possible (and higher if the incoming D energy is higher).
Now, the binding energy of He-4 equals 2 x 7.2890 + 2 x 8.0713 - 2.4249 MeV = 14.591 MeV
as calculated from the mass excess of two protons (H-1) and two neutrons.
This means that the ground state of He-4 is only 14.591 MeV below 0. A bound state with an excitation of 23.8 MeV is hence not possible. That doesn't mean that resonances aren't possible of course. But you cannot have a bound state of He-4 which is excited 23.8 MeV above the ground state, as the ground state itself is only 14.591 MeV deep.
 

Related to Why D + D Reactions Don't Produce He4: Understanding Nuclear Fusion

1. Why doesn't D + D > He4?

The reason why D + D does not equal He4 is because of the conservation of mass and energy. In a fusion reaction, two nuclei combine to form a larger nucleus, releasing energy in the process. However, the mass of the resulting nucleus is slightly less than the combined mass of the two original nuclei. This difference in mass is converted into energy, according to Einstein's famous equation E=mc². In the case of D + D, the resulting He4 nucleus has less mass than the combined masses of two deuterium nuclei, therefore the reaction does not occur spontaneously.

2. What is the difference between D + D and D + T fusion reactions?

The main difference between D + D and D + T fusion reactions is the type of fuel used. D + D fusion involves two deuterium nuclei combining to form a helium-4 nucleus, while D + T fusion involves a deuterium and a tritium nucleus combining to form a helium-4 nucleus. The D + T reaction releases more energy per reaction than the D + D reaction, but it also requires higher temperatures and pressures to occur.

3. Can D + D fusion ever occur?

Yes, D + D fusion can occur under very specific and extreme conditions. In order for the reaction to occur, the deuterium nuclei must be brought together with enough energy to overcome the electrostatic repulsion between them. This can be achieved through high temperatures and pressures, as well as confinement techniques such as magnetic or inertial confinement fusion.

4. Why is D + D fusion important in nuclear fusion research?

D + D fusion is important in nuclear fusion research because it is a key step in the fusion reaction chain that leads to the production of helium-4, which is the desired end product of many fusion reactions. It also has a lower energy requirement compared to other fusion reactions, making it a potential candidate for future fusion power generation.

5. Could D + D fusion be used as a sustainable energy source?

At the moment, D + D fusion is not a practical or sustainable energy source. While it has the potential to produce large amounts of energy, current technology is not advanced enough to achieve the necessary conditions for sustained fusion reactions. However, ongoing research and advancements in fusion technology may one day make D + D fusion a viable and sustainable energy source.

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