Why are there two different forms of the 1st law of thermodynamics?

In summary, the 1st law of thermodynamics can be stated in two different ways, as shown in the equations Eth=W+Q and Eth=Q-W. The second equation takes into account the fact that when heat is added to a system, it does work on the surroundings, resulting in a negative work value. On the other hand, the first equation is a more general form that does not consider the sign of work. This difference in definition applies to the symbol W, which can represent work done by the system or work done on the system.
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Homework Statement


Hi everyone, in 2 of my physics books the 1st law of thermodynamics is stated in 2 different ways:
I am unsure why these are stated in 2 different forms. Here is what I think:

Homework Equations


1. Eth=W+Q
2. Eth=Q-W

The Attempt at a Solution


2. takes into consideration the fact that when heat is added to a system then the system does work on the surroundings. for example in a cylinder filled with gas and covered with a piston: when heat is added (temperature increases therefore the internal energy also increases, this causes the piston to move up by dx and since there is a force exerted on the system (in the opposite direction dx) work becomes negative. hence, w=-pdV. therefore the first law becomes Q-W.
1. equation is a more general form the law and it doesn't take into consideration the sign of work.

Is this the right explanation?
 
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Some texts use the symbol W to represent work done by the system on the environment. Other books define W as the work done on the system by the environment. These two ways of defining W will generally have the same magnitude but differ in sign.
 
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So I was partially right then! Thank you TSny!
 
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It's a difference in the definition of work. The sign is negative when work is stated as "work done by the system" and the sign is positive when work represents "work done on the system".
 

Related to Why are there two different forms of the 1st law of thermodynamics?

1. What is the first law of thermodynamics?

The first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted from one form to another.

2. How does the first law of thermodynamics relate to conservation of energy?

The first law of thermodynamics is essentially a restatement of the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy is always conserved in a closed system.

3. Can the first law of thermodynamics be violated?

No, the first law of thermodynamics is a fundamental law of nature and cannot be violated. The total amount of energy in a closed system will always remain constant.

4. What are some real-life applications of the first law of thermodynamics?

The first law of thermodynamics has many practical applications, such as in engines and power plants. It also helps explain everyday processes, such as digestion and metabolism in living organisms.

5. How does the first law of thermodynamics relate to heat and work?

The first law of thermodynamics states that the total energy in a system is equal to the amount of work done plus the amount of heat transferred into or out of the system. In other words, energy can be converted between work and heat, but the total amount remains constant.

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