Why Are IR and UV Divergences the Same?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the difference between IR and UV divergences in integrals. IR divergences occur when integrating over low momentum or energy, while UV divergences occur when integrating over high momentum or energy. A change of variable can convert an IR divergence into a UV divergence, but the physical variables being integrated over are different. While a mathematician may see them as similar, physicists distinguish between the two types of divergences.
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perhaps is a dumb quetion but,

given a IR divergent integral (diverges whenever x tends to 0)

[tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{dx}{x^{3}} [/tex]

then using a simple change of variables x=1/u the IR integral becomes an UV divergent integral


[tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} udu [/tex] which is an UV divergent integral (it diverges whenever x tends to infinity)

then why we call IR or UV divergences if they are essentially the same thing ??
 
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They are not the same thing. An IR divergence is one that arises from integrals over low momentum or energy, and a UV divergence is one that arises from integrals over high momentum or energy.
 
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yes of course, but from the mathematical point of view a change of variable would turn an IR divergence into a UV one, for a mathematician both functions or divergences would be the same since from the cut-off we can define a function [tex] \epsilon = 1/ \Lambda [/tex]

with this epsilon tending to 0
 
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But the physical variable is not the same, that is why we call them different
 
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of course is not the same taking the integral

[tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} d\lambda f( \lambda ) [/tex]

or taking the integral [tex] \int_{0}^{\infty} dp f(p) [/tex]

in the first integral we integrate over the wavelength (meters) whereas in the second we integrate over moment (kg.m/second) but for a mathematician both singularities would seem the same.
 
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But it's physicists that are using these terms, and they do distinguish between divergent in E and in 1/E.
 

Related to Why Are IR and UV Divergences the Same?

1. What are IR and UV divergences?

IR (infrared) and UV (ultraviolet) divergences are types of mathematical divergences that occur in quantum field theory calculations. They arise when the integration of certain physical quantities leads to infinite values.

2. Why are IR and UV divergences considered the same?

IR and UV divergences are considered the same because they both represent the same underlying issue in quantum field theory calculations - the presence of infinities that need to be removed in order to obtain physically meaningful results.

3. How do IR and UV divergences affect our understanding of the physical world?

IR and UV divergences challenge our understanding of the physical world by revealing the limitations of our current theoretical frameworks, such as quantum field theory. These divergences also highlight the need for more advanced mathematical tools and theories to accurately describe and predict physical phenomena.

4. Can IR and UV divergences be eliminated?

IR and UV divergences can be eliminated through a process called renormalization, which involves adjusting the parameters of a theory to cancel out the infinities. This allows for the calculation of physically meaningful quantities and predictions.

5. What are some potential implications of IR and UV divergences?

The presence of IR and UV divergences in quantum field theory calculations can have significant implications for our understanding of the physical world. It could mean that our current theories are incomplete or that there are new, undiscovered laws of physics that need to be incorporated. It also highlights the need for further research and development in the field of theoretical physics.

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