What is the correlation between the age and size of the universe?

In summary, the conversation discusses the age and size of the observable universe, estimated to be 13.8 billion years and 93 billion light years respectively. The radius of the universe is larger than 13.8 light years due to the expansion of space during the journey of light. This expansion also explains why the farthest objects we can see now were emitted from a closer distance in the past. Inflation is not necessary to understand this concept.
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Please help me understand this.

The age of the universe is given as being about 13.8 billion years. The size of the universe is estimated to be 93 billion light years
( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe)

Since the oldest light to reach us comes from 13.8 light years away, why do we estimate that the universe has a radius of 46+ billion light years instead of 13.8 ?

I know that the universe expanded faster than the speed of light but why do we think that and why 93 billion light years?

Thank you.
 
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somebodyelse said:
Please help me understand this.

The age of the universe is given as being about 13.8 billion years. The size of the universe is estimated to be 93 billion light years
( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe)

Since the oldest light to reach us comes from 13.8 light years away, why do we estimate that the universe has a radius of 46+ billion light years instead of 13.8 ?

Thank you.

First of all, it is important to emphasize this is the size of the observable universe, the part of the universe we can receive light from.

Second, the radius is larger than 13.8 light years since the universe expands during the journey the photons make to reach us. So, the point where a photon that reaches us today started from can be 46+ billion light years away since it was much closer to us when the journey started.
 
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If the universe were static, that is not expanding, then you could indeed do the simple calculation of the speed of light times the age of the universe to find out where the farthest objects you can see were at the time of emission (and still are).
However, since the space in-between the source and the observer has been expanding, such calculations won't give you the right answer. The light has to travel the extra bits of space, so it takes it more time to reach us than it would in a static universe.

In the expanding universe the light coming from faraway objects that you see was emitted closer than c*t, and the objects are at this very moment farther than c*t. The 46 billion ly figure is the distance to the farthest objects we see now, if you could stop the expansion and measure the distance as it is NOW. The distance to those objects at the time of emission was much closer - about 42 million ly.

@Doug Huffman : I think inflation doesn't need to be invoked here, the confusion stems purely from not taking into account the regular expansion.
 
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Thank you all.
I forgot that the universe is expanding further during the 13.8 billion years it takes for the oldest light to reach us.
 

Related to What is the correlation between the age and size of the universe?

1. How old is the universe and how do we know?

The current estimated age of the universe is around 13.8 billion years. This is determined through various methods such as measuring the expansion rate of the universe, studying the cosmic microwave background radiation, and observing the ages of the oldest stars in the universe.

2. How big is the observable universe?

The observable universe is estimated to be around 93 billion light-years in diameter. This means that the farthest distance we can see in the universe is 46.5 billion light-years in any direction.

3. Is the universe infinite in size?

The answer is currently unknown. While the observable universe has a finite size, it is possible that the entire universe could be infinite. This is still an active area of research and debate among scientists.

4. Does the size of the universe affect its age?

Yes, the size of the universe does affect its age. The expansion rate of the universe, which is affected by its size, plays a crucial role in determining its age. A larger universe would have a slower expansion rate and therefore a longer age.

5. Will the universe continue to expand indefinitely?

Based on current observations, it is believed that the universe will continue to expand indefinitely. However, there are theories that suggest the expansion could eventually slow down or even reverse in the distant future. More research and observations are needed to fully understand the fate of the universe.

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