What happens to the Hamiltonian of the wave function after measurement?

In summary, the Hamiltonian is the total energy of a system, including the kinetic and potential energy of the wave function. When a measurement is done, the energy is conserved and there is no average gain or loss of the Hamiltonian. The total energy of the system may shift after measurement, but it is still conserved and is shared between the particle and the measuring device. The measurement process is described by a Hamiltonian that remains constant before and after measurement.
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As I understand it, the Hamiltonian is the kinetic plus the potential energy of the wave function. When a measurement is done what happens to the kinetic and potential energy?

Does it dissipate? Is it conserved in the measured state? Does it decrease?

Does the Hamilton or kinetic+Potential energy of the system(wave function) change when it is measured? Does the energy decrease and is transferred to the measuring device, does the energy increase and then the energy of the measuring device would decrease or does everything stay the same and there's no change of energy for the system or the measuring device?

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Energy is conserved in classical and quantum physics. There is a powerful theorem that is in fact the modern conception of energy, called Noethers Theorem, that guarantees this:
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~cwp/articles/noether.asg/noether.html

Measurement in no way changes this. Most of the time in QM measurement, what you are measuring is destroyed - but energy is still conserved. Even if it isn't destroyed the total energy (what is observed and the observing apparatus) is not affected.

Specifically in QM operators have no average rate of change if they commute with the Hamiltonian. Since, obviously, the Hamiltonian commutes with itself, there is no average gain or loss of the Hamiltonian.

The twist of course in QM is this on the average thing - which is all you can predict in QM.

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@bhobba, thanks for the response.

This is what I thought, the energy is conserved but does it change or a better word would be does it shift? Does the total energy of the system shift after a measurement occurs. Is the energy dispersed in the environment of the measuring apparatus? Does the total energy shift to the particle after measurement?

Where does the total energy of the system go after measurement? Does the wave function that evolves after measurement share the same potential and kinetic energy of the wave function prior to measurement?

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In measuring an atom or any other object, you interact it with a measuring device.

The measurement process is a physical interaction between atom and device, where total energy is conserved.

To describe this process, you need a Hamiltonian that describes the atom, device, and their interaction.

It is this global Hamiltonian that is a constant of motion before and after the measurement.

Thus, the energy of the atom may shift after measurement, but this is accompanied by a corresponding shift in the energy of the measurement device (assuming atom plus device is a closed system).
 

Related to What happens to the Hamiltonian of the wave function after measurement?

1. What is the Hamiltonian of a wave function?

The Hamiltonian is a mathematical operator that represents the total energy of a quantum system. It is used to describe the evolution of the wave function over time.

2. What happens to the Hamiltonian after measurement?

After measurement, the Hamiltonian remains unchanged. It still represents the total energy of the system, but the state of the system has been collapsed into one of the possible eigenstates of the Hamiltonian.

3. Does the measurement process affect the Hamiltonian?

No, the measurement process does not affect the Hamiltonian. The Hamiltonian only describes the energy of the system and is not affected by the measurement process.

4. Can the Hamiltonian of a wave function be measured?

The Hamiltonian cannot be directly measured, but its eigenvalues can be observed through energy measurements. The Hamiltonian itself is a mathematical concept used to describe the energy of a system.

5. How does the Hamiltonian affect the measurement outcomes?

The Hamiltonian does not directly affect the measurement outcomes. However, the eigenstates of the Hamiltonian determine the possible measurement outcomes and their corresponding probabilities.

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