Understanding the Limit Definition of the Derivative: A Search for Mistakes

In summary, the conversation discusses the attempt to prove the equation (f(x)*g(x))'= g(x)*f(x)'+ g(x)'*f(x) using the limit definition. However, it is pointed out that the limits lim h→0 ((f(x+h))/h) and lim h→0 ((f(x))/h) may not exist, leading to a faulty proof. The issue is resolved by noting that the rules for limits only apply when both limits exist and the limit of the denominator cannot be 0 in the case of division.
  • #1
limitkiller
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that is too sad
it have been 2 days and i coudnt find out where do i make mistake.
i wanted to prove:" (f(x)*g(x))'= g(x)*f(x)'+ g(x)'*f(x)". so:
(f(x)*g(x))'= lim h→0 ((f(x+h)*g(x+h)-f(x)*g(x))/h)

=lim h→0 ((f(x+h)*g(x+h))/h) - lim h→0 (f(x)*g(x))/h)

=[lim h→0 ((f(x+h))/h)*lim h→0 (g(x+h))] - [ lim h→0 ((f(x))/h) * lim h→0 (g(x))]

=[lim h→0 ((f(x+h))/h)* g(x)] - [ lim h→0 ((f(x))/h) * (g(x)]

= g(x)*[lim h→0 ((f(x+h))/h) - lim h→0 ((f(x))/h)]

= g(x)*[lim h→0 ((f(x+h)-f(x))/h)]

= g(x)*f(x)'
then (f(x)*g(x))'= g(x)*f(x)' !(?)!
 
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  • #2
The limits lim h→0 ((f(x+h))/h) and lim h→0 ((f(x))/h) does not necessarily exist.
 
  • #3
Hint:
[tex]0=f(x+h)g(x)-f(x+h)(gx)[/tex]
 
  • #4
Just to expand on what other people have said, rules like "The limit of the difference is the difference of the limits" only apply when both limits exist. So it is not true that
[tex]\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h)g(x+h)-f(x)g(x)}{h}= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h)g(x+x)}{h} -\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x)g(x)}{h} = \infty - \infty[/tex]
(the last equality is assuming neither f nor g is 0 or has a 0 limit at x)
Likewise, splitting up limits like that only works when the limits each exist for addition, multiplication and division. The limit of the denominator also can't be 0 in the case of division.
 
  • #5
thanks
that was so silly.
 

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