Two masses colliding relativistically

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In summary: This is the same as your result, except for the factor of 16/3 you pulled out of the square root.In summary, when a mass m moving at speed 4c/5 collides with another mass m at rest, the resulting collision produces a photon with energy E traveling perpendicular to the original direction, and a mass M traveling in another direction. Using conservation of energy and momentum, it can be determined that M = (m^2 - 16/3mE)^1/2 and the largest value of E (in terms of m) for which this setup is possible is 3m/16.
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Homework Statement


A mass m moving at speed 4c/5 collides with another mass m at rest. The collision produces a photon with energy E traveling perpendicular to the original direction, and a mass M traveling in another direction. In terms of E and m, what is M? What is the largest value of E (in terms of m) for which this setup is possible?

Homework Equations


p=Ymv
E=Ymc^2
(E^2-P^2c^2)_before = (E^2-P^2c^2)_after

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using momentum only, and I get the calculation of p_x=4/3mc, p_y=-E/c (I used four momenta) so now this doesn't give me much to go on alone since I'm looking for M first. I tried using equation 3 but it becomes so convoluted I'm not sure how that could help me with the answer at all.

Any suggestions?
 
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TristanRE said:
I tried using momentum only, and I get the calculation of p_x=4/3mc, p_y=-E/c (I used four momenta)
OK. These are the x and y components of the momentum of the particle of mass M.

so now this doesn't give me much to go on alone since I'm looking for M first. I tried using equation 3 but it becomes so convoluted I'm not sure how that could help me with the answer at all.
Any suggestions?
Try conservation of energy. For the particle of mass M, use the relativistic expression for energy in terms of mass and momentum. That way, you can use your results for px and py.
 
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I'm not sure this is what you meant, but I ended up doing the following.

P1 = incoming mass 4 momentum = (E1),p1,0,0)
P2 = created particle = (E2,p1,-E,0)
P3 = photon = (E,0,E,0)

I then equate: P2=P1 - P3
I squared it and rearranged, and plugged in for E1 = 5/3m, which yielded M = (m2-10/3mE)1/2

Then for the second part it seems easy (assuming I'm right up to this point). I just solved for how large E can be without the the radical being negative: Emax=3m/10

How does this look? I found an example comparable to this in my textbook, thought its not exactly the same, I think this is right.
 
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What about the 4-momentum of the particle that was initially at rest?
 
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It completely slipped my mind! Thank you.

I redid did it the same way except replacing P1 with PInitial=(8/3m,,p1,0,0)

Thereby obtaining M = (m2-16/3mE)1/2,

and Emax = 3m/16.
 
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TristanRE said:
I redid did it the same way except replacing P1 with PInitial=(8/3m,,p1,0,0)
OK.

Thereby obtaining M = (m2-16/3mE)1/2,

and Emax = 3m/16.

I'm getting the 16/3 in a different place: ##M = \sqrt{\frac{16}{3}\left(m^2-mE\right)}##.
 

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