To what degree can mathematicians research physics and vice versa

In summary: This is a difficult question. Some mathematicians are able to do good work in physics, while others are not as adept and are restricted to doing work in the mathematics of physics.
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damabo
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indeed, this is the question:
"to what degree can mathematicians research physics and vice versa ?"
also, say you're in the analysis department of math for instance, to what degree is your research confined to the branch of analysis?
thanks
 
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David Hilbert said : "Physics is getting too difficult for Physicists"
 
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wow, that's one hell of a coincidence! I just read that yesterday :D
 
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Dr Transport said:
David Hilbert said : "Physics is getting too difficult for Physicists"

No wonder there's a controversy regarding Hilbert's contribution to general relativity.
 
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failexam said:
No wonder there's a controversy regarding Hilbert's contribution to general relativity.

There's no controversy, Einstein constantly supplied him with ideas and the status of his work, so that Hilbert's article of 1915 didn't pop out of thin air.
 
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Well, obviously Hilbert's article didn't pop out of thin air!

But couldn't Einstein have formulated his theory quicker if he had been more adept in mathematics?
 
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Perhaps...

As to the original question of this thread, there's still a lot of room being left for mathematicians to write papers in (mathematical) physics, no doubt about it. After all, the tradition of the 20th century: Hilbert, von Neumann, Weyl, Wigner, Gelfand, Naimark, K. Friedrichs, I.E. Segal, Mackey, etc. must be carried forward.
 
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damabo said:
indeed, this is the question:
"to what degree can mathematicians research physics and vice versa ?"
also, say you're in the analysis department of math for instance, to what degree is your research confined to the branch of analysis?
thanks
Mathematicians can do good work in physics if, and only if they are able to ill-define their mathematical concepts, i.e. if they understand that physics is ill-defined mathematical structure.

sam
 
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failexam said:
Well, obviously Hilbert's article didn't pop out of thin air!

But couldn't Einstein have formulated his theory quicker if he had been more adept in mathematics?
Hilbert knew all the mathematical structures of GR 20 years before 1916, so why didn't he formulate GR 20 years ealier than Einstein?

Sam
 
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so everybody thinks that mathematicians (whether specialized in analysis, geometry, or algebra) can choose topics in physics - I mean professors, but also post-doc researchers and people working on their PhD ?
 

Related to To what degree can mathematicians research physics and vice versa

1. What is the relationship between mathematics and physics?

The relationship between mathematics and physics is very close. Mathematics provides the language and tools for describing and analyzing physical phenomena, while physics uses these mathematical models to explain and predict the behavior of the physical world.

2. Can mathematicians contribute to the field of physics?

Yes, mathematicians can make significant contributions to the field of physics. They can develop new mathematical models and equations to describe physical phenomena, as well as use their expertise in mathematical analysis to help solve complex problems in physics.

3. How do mathematicians and physicists collaborate?

Mathematicians and physicists often collaborate on research projects, where they combine their knowledge and expertise to solve problems in both mathematics and physics. They may also attend conferences and workshops together to share their findings and discuss potential collaborations.

4. Can physicists use mathematics to make new discoveries?

Yes, mathematics plays a crucial role in making new discoveries in physics. Physicists often use mathematical techniques to analyze and interpret data from experiments, as well as to develop new theories and models to explain the behavior of the physical world.

5. Is it necessary for physicists to have a strong understanding of mathematics?

Yes, it is essential for physicists to have a strong understanding of mathematics. Many concepts and theories in physics are based on mathematical principles, and without a solid mathematical foundation, it would be challenging to make progress in the field of physics.

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