The Mystery of Gravity: Doubts Answered

In summary, the conversation discusses the current understanding of gravity through the theory of general relativity, which explains that matter shapes space-time and in turn, space-time tells matter how to move. The conversation also addresses the difficulty in answering the "why" of gravity and how science works through observations, ideas, and testing. It emphasizes the importance of continuously updating and improving ideas and theories to better explain and predict observations. Additionally, the conversation mentions the role of assumptions or postulates in scientific theories and the limitations in fully understanding the "how" and "why" of gravity at this time.
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I have a doubts related to gravity
How do this gravity come into existence?
What is a cause of gravity?
Why two masses are attracted due to gravity?
 
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The best idea we have for the "how" of gravity right now is general relativity. It has been explained in colorful language like so. Matter shapes space-time, and space-time tells matter how to move. But there is really a lot of very pretty mathematics to understand the details. And that math has confronted the experimental data and done exceptionally well. With some tantalizing things like dark matter that we are not entirely sure we understand completely.

Asking "why" in science is a troublesome thing. It is difficult to know what sort of answer would be satisfactory.

Science generally works like so. You start with observations. Sometimes they start out pretty disorganized. You get an idea, maybe little better than a guess, how these things work. Then you use that idea to design tests and predict the outcomes. Then you compare the results to your predictions. Then you update your idea and make it better. Then you use the better idea to design better tests. And you cycle this. Better tests followed by better ideas, and more improvement to tests, and more improvement to ideas.

Insert a great deal of human effort with the usual degree of human failings, weirdness, and brilliance. And people slagging each other off at conferences and on web sites. And crazy ideas (that may be right or wrong) promoted by people with an axe to grind. And brilliant teachers who finally make us understand.

Eventually the idea becomes better and better at predicting test results. Or you decide the idea is hopeless and get rid of it to replace it with a completely different idea.

The key feature is, you keep updating your ideas. You keep correcting them by comparing to observation. And at any given point you have the best idea (or possibly a few competing best ideas) that explain the "how" of everything that has been observed.

Always these ideas will have some assumptions. Another word used frequently is "postulate." These are the things that are taken for granted and not explained by the theory. These are the foundations on which the theory is built. We have comfort in these foundations because they have been tested many times and worked. But, at the moment, we don't have any way to look behind this particular curtain.

This comes back to your question. What sort of observation could you make to test a "why" sort of idea? Beyond a "we think this because it works" sort of answer, it is really hard to provide an answer to "why."
 
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The best idea we have for the "how" of gravity right now is general relativity. It has been explained in colorful language like so. Matter shapes space-time, and space-time tells matter how to move. But there is really a lot of very pretty mathematics to understand the details. And that math has confronted the experimental data and done exceptionally well. With some tantalizing things like dark matter that we are not entirely sure we understand completely.

Asking "why" in science is a troublesome thing. It is difficult to know what sort of answer would be satisfactory.

Science generally works like so. You start with observations. Sometimes they start out pretty disorganized. You get an idea, maybe little better than a guess, how these things work. Then you use that idea to design tests and predict the outcomes. Then you compare the results to your predictions. Then you update your idea and make it better. Then you use the better idea to design better tests. And you cycle this. Better tests followed by better ideas, and more improvement to tests, and more improvement to ideas.

Insert a great deal of human effort with the usual degree of human failings, weirdness, and brilliance. And people slagging each other off at conferences and on web sites. And crazy ideas (that may be right or wrong) promoted by people with an axe to grind. And brilliant teachers who finally make us understand.

Eventually the idea becomes better and better at predicting test results. Or you decide the idea is hopeless and get rid of it to replace it with a completely different idea.

The key feature is, you keep updating your ideas. You keep correcting them by comparing to observation. And at any given point you have the best idea (or possibly a few competing best ideas) that explain the "how" of everything that has been observed.

Always these ideas will have some assumptions. Another word used frequently is "postulate." These are the things that are taken for granted and not explained by the theory. These are the foundations on which the theory is built. We have comfort in these foundations because they have been tested many times and worked. But, at the moment, we don't have any way to look behind this particular curtain.

This comes back to your question. What sort of observation could you make to test a "why" sort of idea? Beyond a "we think this because it works" sort of answer, it is really hard to provide an answer to "why."

DEvens said:
The best idea we have for the "how" of gravity right now is general relativity. It has been explained in colorful language like so. Matter shapes space-time, and space-time tells matter how to move. But there is really a lot of very pretty mathematics to understand the details. And that math has confronted the experimental data and done exceptionally well. With some tantalizing things like dark matter that we are not entirely sure we understand completely.

Asking "why" in science is a troublesome thing. It is difficult to know what sort of answer would be satisfactory.

Science generally works like so. You start with observations. Sometimes they start out pretty disorganized. You get an idea, maybe little better than a guess, how these things work. Then you use that idea to design tests and predict the outcomes. Then you compare the results to your predictions. Then you update your idea and make it better. Then you use the better idea to design better tests. And you cycle this. Better tests followed by better ideas, and more improvement to tests, and more improvement to ideas.

Insert a great deal of human effort with the usual degree of human failings, weirdness, and brilliance. And people slagging each other off at conferences and on web sites. And crazy ideas (that may be right or wrong) promoted by people with an axe to grind. And brilliant teachers who finally make us understand.

Eventually the idea becomes better and better at predicting test results. Or you decide the idea is hopeless and get rid of it to replace it with a completely different idea.

The key feature is, you keep updating your ideas. You keep correcting them by comparing to observation. And at any given point you have the best idea (or possibly a few competing best ideas) that explain the "how" of everything that has been observed.

Always these ideas will have some assumptions. Another word used frequently is "postulate." These are the things that are taken for granted and not explained by the theory. These are the foundations on which the theory is built. We have comfort in these foundations because they have been tested many times and worked. But, at the moment, we don't have any way to look behind this particular curtain.

This comes back to your question. What sort of observation could you make to test a "why" sort of idea? Beyond a "we think this because it works" sort of answer, it is really hard to provide an answer to "why."
Thank you Sir for answering
 

Related to The Mystery of Gravity: Doubts Answered

1. What is gravity and how does it work?

Gravity is a natural force that causes objects with mass to be attracted to one another. This force is explained by Einstein's theory of general relativity, which states that objects with mass cause a distortion in the fabric of space-time, creating a "gravity well" that pulls other objects towards it.

2. Why is gravity important to our everyday lives?

Gravity plays a crucial role in keeping our solar system and universe in balance. It keeps planets in orbit around the sun, allows us to stay grounded on Earth, and even helps determine the shape of galaxies. Without gravity, our world would be completely different.

3. Can we manipulate or control gravity?

Currently, we do not have the technology to manipulate or control gravity. However, scientists are constantly researching and experimenting with different theories and technologies that may one day allow us to harness the power of gravity.

4. Is gravity the same everywhere in the universe?

No, gravity is not the same everywhere in the universe. The strength of gravity depends on the mass of the objects and the distance between them. For example, the gravity on Earth is stronger than the gravity on the moon because Earth has a larger mass.

5. Are there any unanswered questions about gravity?

There are still many mysteries surrounding gravity, including how it is related to other fundamental forces such as electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Scientists are also trying to understand how gravity works on a quantum level, which could potentially lead to a unified theory of physics.

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