Shaft - find natural frequency of horizontal shaft with bearings

In summary, the conversation discusses how to find the natural frequency of a horizontal shaft with bearings using Ansys-classic. It is suggested to use appropriate restraints at the bearings and add an imbalance or white noise while sweeping over an RPM range. It is also mentioned that the question does not specify which type of frequency (whirl, torsional, or lateral vibration) is needed and the importance of considering non-synchronous whirl in some situations. The flexibility of all parts of the system may also need to be taken into account.
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shaft -- find natural frequency of horizontal shaft with bearings

how to find natural frequency of horizontal shaft with bearings at either sides, using (Ansys-classic).
Please reply, Thank you.
 
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I'm sorry you are not generating any responses at the moment. Is there any additional information you can share with us? Any new findings?
 
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Is the shaft rotating fast enough that the rotation might alter the frequency?

If not, then just put appropriate restraints where the bearings are and solve it. You'll need to decide if the bearings give it freedom to rotate like simple supports or only allow axial rotation like a sleeve bearing.
 
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It is not clear if you want the critical angular frequency for whirl, or the torsional or lateral vibration frequency.

Simulators are often too perfect to self destruct. You may need to add an imbalance or some white noise while sweeping over an RPM range.
 
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I agree the question doesn't specify what the OP really wants to calculate.

And if you do want to include the effect of whirling, without a drawing of the rotor it's not obvious whether a simple "rigid disks on a flexible shaft" model is appropriate, or whether you need to include the flexibility of all parts of the system.

Baluncore said:
It is not clear if you want the critical angular frequency for whirl, or the torsional or lateral vibration frequency.

The lateral vibration frequencies ARE whirl frequencies, but not synchronous ones. In some situations non-synchronous whirl is just as much a problem as synchronous. Even if it doesn't cause the device to fail catastrophically, it can eat up the structure's fatigue life like there was no tomorrow!
 

Related to Shaft - find natural frequency of horizontal shaft with bearings

1. What is a natural frequency?

A natural frequency is the frequency at which an object will naturally vibrate when disturbed. In the case of a horizontal shaft with bearings, it is the frequency at which the shaft will naturally bend and oscillate.

2. How is the natural frequency of a shaft with bearings calculated?

The natural frequency of a horizontal shaft with bearings can be calculated using the formula: fn = (1/2π) * √(k/m), where fn is the natural frequency, k is the stiffness of the shaft, and m is the mass of the shaft.

3. Why is it important to find the natural frequency of a shaft with bearings?

Knowing the natural frequency of a shaft with bearings is important because it helps engineers and scientists understand how the shaft will respond to external forces and vibrations. It also allows them to design and build structures that can withstand these vibrations.

4. What factors can affect the natural frequency of a shaft with bearings?

The natural frequency of a shaft with bearings can be affected by various factors, including the material and shape of the shaft, the type and placement of bearings, and the stiffness and mass of the shaft. External factors such as temperature and load can also have an impact.

5. How can the natural frequency of a shaft with bearings be altered?

The natural frequency of a shaft with bearings can be altered by changing its stiffness or mass. This can be achieved by using different materials, adjusting the shape or size of the shaft, or adding or removing bearings. Additionally, external factors such as temperature and load can also affect the natural frequency.

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