Science isn't the kind of circular dynamic I thought it was.

In summary, while experiments can tell us what the laws of physics are, they don't tell us why they are the way they are.
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Science isn't the kind of "circular dynamic" I thought it was.

"Why the laws are as they are is a pretty easy question to answer."

The statement above really bothers me.

Why is C constant? Why does mass distort space-time? ...

Experiment tells us what the laws are

but experiments don't exactly tell us why the laws are set that way.

or can they?


You can tell me why mass distorts space-time because that's what the experiment shows, but does the experiment give reason as to why mass distorts space-time in the first place?

I'm struggling to word this but,

Can Physics explain itself?

Can it make the full loop?
 
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All physics does is tell us how something changes or reacts in response to changes in environment or conditions.

The question of why something is the way it is is more appropriate for metaphysics rather than physics.
 
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You never really prove a theory's correctness, you just test its validity until it's no longer valid.

And the best test is to check how much does the theoretical result differ from the experiment, that's the only merit a successful theory has.
 
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It is very unlikely that any theory of reality can explain itself. It is unlikely that any theory of anything can explain itself. At some point there is a postulate. In mathematics the postulates/axioms are chosen for a number of reasons. In physics they are chosen to fit with experiment (and be as simple as possible).

Since physics quickly gets very complex, take simple math. How do you prove that 7+6=13? Usually one would say "well, I have 7 apples and I have another 6 apples..." but how do we know that the same holds for pencils? It doesn't work for clocks (in North America).

One might dream that someday part of the set of postulates could be used to prove the others, but we should be humbled by the failure to do so in mathematics. I shouldn't bring up Godel's incompleteness theorem because I don't know enough about it and I've been told that it can't be applied to physics, but I just did, so read about it.
 
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I understand your frustration and confusion about the concept of circular dynamics in science. It is true that science is not a perfect circular process where everything is neatly explained and connected. In fact, it is a constantly evolving and complex web of knowledge and understanding.

The laws of physics, such as the constant value of C or the distortion of space-time by mass, are observed and measured through experiments. However, these experiments do not necessarily provide the underlying reasons or explanations for why these laws exist. They simply show us that these laws are how the natural world behaves.

In order to truly understand the "why" behind these laws, scientists often have to turn to theories and models, which are constantly being refined and updated as new evidence and information becomes available. So while experiments may not provide all the answers, they are crucial in building our understanding and knowledge of the natural world.

To answer your question, physics can provide explanations and understanding for certain phenomena, but it also relies on other fields of science and ongoing research to fully explain the complexities of the natural world. It is an ongoing process of discovery and understanding, not a closed loop.
 

Related to Science isn't the kind of circular dynamic I thought it was.

1. What do you mean by "science isn't the kind of circular dynamic I thought it was"?

When someone says "science isn't the kind of circular dynamic I thought it was," they are likely referring to the misconception that science is a linear and straightforward process, where one step leads to the next in a predictable and circular manner. In reality, science is a dynamic and ever-evolving field, where new discoveries and evidence can change the direction of research and understanding.

2. How does this misconception about science affect the way we view scientific research?

Believing that science is a circular and predictable process can lead to a lack of appreciation for the complexity and uncertainty involved in scientific research. It can also lead to a disregard for new evidence and ideas that challenge our current understanding, hindering scientific progress.

3. Can you provide an example of how science is not a circular dynamic?

One example is the theory of evolution. Initially, it was thought that evolution occurred through a linear process, with one species gradually evolving into another. However, with new evidence and advancements in technology, scientists have discovered that evolution is a complex and branching process, with multiple factors influencing the development of species.

4. How does the dynamic nature of science contribute to its advancements?

The dynamic nature of science allows for constant growth and improvement. New evidence, technologies, and perspectives can lead to breakthroughs and advancements in our understanding of the world. This also allows for the correction of previous misconceptions and the development of more accurate theories.

5. What can we do to better understand and appreciate the dynamic nature of science?

To better understand and appreciate the dynamic nature of science, we can stay updated on new research and advancements, question our own assumptions and biases, and be open to new ideas and evidence. It is also important to recognize the collaborative and interdisciplinary nature of science, where diverse perspectives and approaches can lead to a more comprehensive understanding of complex phenomena.

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