Reversing digits, then adding and finding divisible integers of result.

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In summary: Ha! That's good. Attention to detail is even more important to exposing lame problem statements than I thought.
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Homework Statement



If you find the sum of any two digit number and the number formed by reversing its digits, the resulting number is always divisible by which three positive integers?


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None.


The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]\left(10\ x\ +\ y\right)\ +\ \left(10\ y\ +\ x\right)\ =\ 11\ x\ +\ 11\ y[/itex]

Where x is the tens place and y is the ones place. This is divisible by 11, and 1 (as are all integers) and x + y.

[itex]\therefore\ x\ +\ y\ ,11\ ,1\ |\ 11\ x\ +\ 11\ y[/itex]
 
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Was there a question in there? Did you determine the 3 numbers?
 
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VinnyCee said:

Homework Statement



If you find the sum of any two digit number and the number formed by reversing its digits, the resulting number is always divisible by which three positive integers?


Homework Equations



None.


The Attempt at a Solution



[itex]\left(10\ x\ +\ y\right)\ +\ \left(10\ y\ +\ x\right)\ =\ 11\ x\ +\ 11\ y[/itex]

Where x is the tens place and y is the ones place. This is divisible by 11, and 1 (as are all integers) and x + y.

[itex]\therefore\ x\ +\ y\ ,11\ ,1\ |\ 11\ x\ +\ 11\ y[/itex]

The number is pretty likely to be divisible by itself as well as 1 and 11, isn't it? Kind of a trick question.
 
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Dick said:
The number is pretty likely to be divisible by itself as well as 1 and 11, isn't it? Kind of a trick question.

Well, if we include one and itself, we are up to 4 numbers (11 and x+y).

So, either they're being generous, asking only for 3 of 4, or they don't count 1 and itself, which would mean we're still missing one.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Well, if we include one and itself, we are up to 4 numbers (11 and x+y).

So, either they're being generous, asking only for 3 of 4, or they don't count 1 and itself, which would mean we're still missing one.

Well, 11+11=22. The only divisors are 1,2,11 and 22. I count four. So that's the max for the minimum number of divisors. Don't think any can be missing. 1 divides everything. So that's probably the one I would throw out. But every number divides itself as well. Tough call.
 
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Dick said:
Well, 11+11=22. The only divisors are 1,2,11 and 22. I count four. So that's the min. Don't think any can be missing. 1 divides everything. So that's probably the one I would throw out. But every number divides itself as well. Tough call.

22??

22 isn't one of them.34,43 = 77, divisible by 1,7,11,77
27,72 = 99, divisible by 1,9,11,99
etc.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
22??

22 isn't one of them.34,43 = 77, divisible by 1,7,11,77
27,72 = 99, divisible by 1,9,11,99
etc.

11 isn't a two digit number? This is getting silly.
 
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Dick said:
11 isn't a two digit number? This is getting silly.

Oh sorry. I thought you were claiming 22 was a common divisor. As in: any 2 digit number and the sum of its reversed version would be divisible by 22. My error.:blushing:
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Well, if we include one and itself, we are up to 4 numbers (11 and x+y).

So, either they're being generous, asking only for 3 of 4, or they don't count 1 and itself, which would mean we're still missing one.

Yes, there are 4 positive numbers, 2 fixed, and 2 depending on the choice of digits.
However, these numbers do not have to be distinct.

Note that with the choice "10", the resulting number is 11, and we only get 1 and 11 as divisors.
In all other cases, there are 3 distinct numbers guaranteed: itself, 11, and 1.

So either we get one number for free, or the problem is broken.
 
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I like Serena said:
Yes, there are 4 positive numbers, 2 fixed, and 2 depending on the choice of digits.
However, these numbers do not have to be distinct.

Note that with the choice "10", the resulting number is 11, and we only get 1 and 11 as divisors.
In all other cases, there are 3 distinct numbers guaranteed: itself, 11, and 1.

So either we get one number for free, or the problem is broken.

Ha! That's good. Attention to detail is even more important to exposing lame problem statements than I thought.
 

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"Reversing digits, then adding and finding divisible integers of result" is a mathematical process where the digits of a number are reversed, then the resulting number is added to the original number. The final result is then checked to see if it is divisible by any integers.

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The purpose of this process is to explore patterns and properties of numbers, and to see if there are any specific numbers or types of numbers that are more likely to produce a result that is divisible by certain integers.

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Reversing digits refers to flipping the order of the individual digits within a number, whereas reversing the order of the digits refers to flipping the entire number. For example, reversing the digits of 123 would result in 321, while reversing the order of the digits would result in 321,000,000,000.

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