Question on the construction of a limit

In summary: So there's no need to find the smallest n, just any n that satisfies the conditions will suffice.In summary, The solution to problem 2 involves using the definition of a limit to prove that the limit of a function exists. The key is to express N in terms of epsilon in a way that the inequality can be proven. The fact that a suitable N can be chosen based on epsilon demonstrates the existence of the limit. It is not necessary to find the smallest n, any n that satisfies the conditions will suffice.
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http://www.math.caltech.edu/classes/ma1a/Fa07Ma1aHW2.pdf
Problem 2

(note, I'm not a Caltech student, so this is not a violation of the Honor Code - also, solutions have been posted)
The solution to problem 2 is at
http://www.math.caltech.edu/classes/ma1a/07Ma1aSol2.pdf

The question with the solution, how is this epsilon constructed? It seems to come out of nowhere. I tried constructing an epsilon myself.

This is what I tried:
"the question I asked was "how in the hell did the person get N? Clearly, one can do it by expressing n in terms of epsilon, but if you do that, you merely get n = (epsilon+1)^1/3 / (1 - (epsilon + 1)^1/3). of course, this > 1 / (1 - (epsilon + 1)^1/3. (and the (epsilon + 1) should not be dif. from the (epsilon - 1) in computations since the inequality reverses (and that should give you an constant dependent on epsilon that n must be bigger than.

So is the only step you have to take to express n in terms of epsilon, and then to find a value of n that is strictly less than that to ensure that the limit of the function is always less than epsilon as n -> infinity?

The question is - is the constant of the official solution better than the constant I gave?
 
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this is classic example how to do proof of this type using "definition of a limit". the key as you have pointed out is to get N in terms of epsilon in such way that the desire inequality can be proved. once you have identified a N (may be as a function epsilon), then that means you can always choose N (using that rule) so that the inequality you are trying to prove is correct.

put it simply, the fact that you are able to choose N as a function of epsilon like this (and the inequality desired holds) means the limit actually exist, and by demonstrating that such choice exist you have proved the problem (ie. like proof by example). Alternatively, if you can't find such a choice (and there are cases like that), that means the limit does not exist. Sometimes, it is however harder to prove that.

the issue about n vs N: by the definition of the limit, all you need is find such n large enough, it doesn't matter how large/small, it just has to be large enough and finite.
 

Related to Question on the construction of a limit

1. What is a limit in mathematics?

A limit is a fundamental concept in mathematics that describes the behavior of a function or sequence as its input or index approaches a certain value. It is denoted by the symbol "lim" and is used to determine the value that a function or sequence approaches as its input or index gets closer and closer to a specific value.

2. How is a limit defined?

A limit is defined as the value that a function or sequence approaches as its input or index gets closer and closer to a particular value. It can be formally defined using the epsilon-delta definition, which states that for a function f(x), the limit as x approaches a value c is equal to L if for any positive number ε, there exists a positive number δ such that if |x - c| < δ, then |f(x) - L| < ε.

3. What is the importance of limits in mathematics?

Limits are essential in mathematics because they allow us to analyze and understand the behavior of functions and sequences. They are used in various branches of mathematics, such as calculus, to determine the continuity and differentiability of functions. Limits also play a crucial role in the development of new mathematical theories and concepts.

4. How do you construct a limit?

To construct a limit, you first need to determine the function or sequence for which you want to find the limit. Then, you can use various techniques such as algebraic manipulation, graphical analysis, or the epsilon-delta definition to evaluate the limit. It is important to follow the proper steps and rules to ensure an accurate and valid limit construction.

5. What are some common misconceptions about limits?

Some common misconceptions about limits include the belief that a limit is equal to the function's value at the specific point, that a limit cannot exist if the function has a discontinuity at the point, and that the limit of a function always exists. It is essential to understand the definition and properties of limits to avoid these misconceptions and accurately evaluate limits.

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